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ScooterX
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somebody called me over the weekend to paint "their logo on the side of their building". i said, how large do you want the logo?" and he said "about 25' x 25'". And he wants some other signage on the front of the building. And they actually have two logos (its a "family" of businesses).

It is a freshly painted 3-story building. I know that i'm going to need to rent scaffoldiing or a scissor lift (which is better?), and i'll add that cost on top of my bid. the sign pricing guide suggests $4 to $5/sq foot for wall painting. Then it says another 65 cents/sq.foot for undercoating. Do i need to undercoat it if its a freshly painted building? (southwestern sage green building).

are there any other special things i need to ask or plan for, other than buckets and buckets of bulletin paint and sign enamel?

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Will the city allow a 25' logo painted on the building? (Most cities do not) If so, is a permit needed? If they want it painted without city approval, who will be liable if it needs to be removed. Do you have the license to do this type of work? if not, who will get the permit, the insurance?, Cal-Osha safety requirements? I am only assuming that you do not have a California Contractors License.

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Scooter, 2 years ago I redid a building with a general contractor that I own shares in downtown. He insisted that we use 2 scissor lifts. By the end of the project we had 8 rented. They are way better than scafolding. Drywallers use them, carpenters use them, stucco guys use 'em, you can too! They are cheaper here to rent for a week than per day. That's my 1 cents worth, have fun.

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Scooter, 2 years ago I redid a building with a general contractor that I own shares in downtown. He insisted that we use 2 scissor lifts. By the end of the project we had 8 rented. They are way better than scafolding. Drywallers use them, carpenters use them, stucco guys use 'em, you can too! They are cheaper here to rent for a week than per day. That's my 1 cents worth, good luck.

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Hi Scooter,

I hope you don't mind me adding my 2 cents here, but I'm curious about something. You said you would need buckets of bulletin paint and sign enamel. I've never used bulletin paint, because I've always read here that it is for cheaper/temporary type work. My guess is that if you are doing a permanent mural that you should use a good quality latex paint, or straight one shot (I've heard them both debated here, and guys use both) I've never heard anyone say they use bulletin enamel.

But what the hell do I know [Wink]

Suelynn

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thanks for the feedback --

and i got the job. (its a re-paint of some previous signs, so i'm not worried about the permits issue... especially in the neighborhood its in. they're just happy to see a business that keeps its building painted)

i'll check on the bulletin vs lettering paint.

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First I would rent a "knuckle boom" or articulating lift.(which ever they decide to call it.
This will be more helpful than scaffolding.
The difference between bullentin and lettering are two fold.
Bullentin is used for larger coverage areas ie.
"Bullentin Boards"
Lettering for the smaller.
hopr this helps

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