-------------------- Arvil Shep' Shepherd Art by Shep' -------- " Those who dance are thought to be mad by those who cannot hear the music " Posts: 1281 | From: Mt Airy NC | Registered: Mar 2001
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John, ha ha ha ha ha ......Wood ????????? ........You are kidding ????? Right ??????? Shep'
-------------------- Arvil Shep' Shepherd Art by Shep' -------- " Those who dance are thought to be mad by those who cannot hear the music " Posts: 1281 | From: Mt Airy NC | Registered: Mar 2001
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Mr. Robson, Shep is merely demonstrating a technique of a faux finish on a substrate. This type of art is in very high demand in the antique automobile industry !!! He is not intending on doing someones kitchen with aluminum faux painted doors ! Now, my dos centavos here..... AWESOME... simply AWESOME Shep !!!!! I am really looking forward to having you at the Spring Fling 2002, A Gathering of Craftsmen in March !! Keep warm, Amigo!
-------------------- John Smith Kings Bay Signs (Retired) Kissimmee, Florida Posts: 816 | From: Central Florida - The Sunshine State | Registered: Jan 2000
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Thank you for your very informative answer……….I had no idea that this was the intended use for such fine work.
Over the past few days many people here have expresses their distaste for answers to question which are rhetorical, undermining, opinionated, distasteful, rude and/or inappropriate. I felt as those I was being undermined. Perhaps I’m some what sensitive.
Since you have cleared this up and I now have a better understanding, I will certainly give Shep the benefit of the doubt, and apologize for my abrasive rebuttal.
Perhaps I should take heed to an earlier post titled “T-H-I-N-K- about what you’re saying”
My sincere apology
-------------------- John Martin Robson Pendragon Signs & Graphics Yellowknife,NT,Canada
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John, Sorry if I upset you..... My post clearly stated a "DEMO PANEL"... Maybe it is me that is dense.......I thought you were kidding..... You see I have posted several photos concerning the "Woodgraining Process" on this Board over the past several months.......When you have time check out my web site and you will see some of the different things I do to make a living. Also note the original post made reference to the Events column on this Board......( This would have explained a lot to you.....)
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Geez Shep, that is uncanny. Man, what a technique you have for this, among other things. I coulda swore this was real. Very, very, nice.
-------------------- Maker of fine signs and other creative stuff. Located at 109 N. Cumberland ave. Harlan, Ky. 40831 606-837-0242 Posts: 4172 | From: Ages-Brookside, Ky. Up the Holler... | Registered: Jul 1999
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Shep, I think you just took that door off my old granny's favorite shif-a-robe. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. As usual, I'm in awe of this technique and your talents.
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I am more impressed with your ability to make that wood door look like a piece of aluminium <<<<<<< see this little guy? he and his friends are at the bottom of the page all you gotta do is: after a joke or something meant to be funny, just click on the little dude that best reflects your demeanor when replying I get upset when a guy like John is misunerstood because his tone could not be reflected in his post because even though I am a funny guy doesnt mean we all can be
-------------------- Ken McTague, Concept Signs 57 Bridge St. (route 107) Salem MA 01970 1-978-745-5800 conceptsign@yahoo.com http://www.pinheadlounge.com/CaptainKen
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"A wise man once said that, or was it a wise guy?" Posts: 2425 | From: Salem, MA | Registered: Apr 1999
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You make a good point ……….I was just saying to my wife, that the written word is often a difficult medium to communicate in………..it lacks inflection. I hadn’t thought of it before, but, yes those little icon faces probably can help us communicate better………..they add a little spice to the bland word.
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-------------------- John Martin Robson Pendragon Signs & Graphics Yellowknife,NT,Canada
if it's not one thing.....it's two things Posts: 261 | From: Yellowknife, NT, Canada | Registered: Aug 2000
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John, You are completely right Sometimes I am guilty of answering a post with a " Tounge in Cheek " response..and it is taken wrong...because it is hard to portray this in the "Written Word "
I too seem to take things "Personal " sometimes. I guess we all need to lighten up a little. Have a Happy New Year Shep'
-------------------- Arvil Shep' Shepherd Art by Shep' -------- " Those who dance are thought to be mad by those who cannot hear the music "
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Freinds, There are many different points of view. There are many different was to express a thought. I don't think (I tried to use them all, but was told that eight was the limit) express much of the human spectrum of emotion. I myself answered Shep's post with a remark that I hope was not taken wrong. I can see by Shep's many post a joy for what he does. I have answered in similar fashion to Shep's postings and, had he replied in a good-natured fashion. I will never get tired of looking at the excellent work on display on the board. I also enjoy the banter among friends as long as that's what it is. As for the negative comments and re-hashing of adgenda in a different post, I hope you join with me in the spirit of the board and just--- Give em the Brush.
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Shep! Shep! The Spring Fling thing.. that's the meet in Georgia, isn't it? Can you teach me how to do that? Or perhaps I could just stand behind you, and check out your technique.. It's allot easier to learn if you even just have someone to watch doing it.. eg, marbling, woodgraining... handlettering, pinstriping, etc.. I'd love to just sit back and watch you paint. *grin* Opps.. Í forgot the invasion of smileys...
-------------------- From Kat Johnston (previously Katie Wright, for those who can remember that far back) Posts: 530 | From: Brisbane, Australia | Registered: Feb 1999
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Something that seems to go without mention in these wood graining posts of late - is the uses for it - Like John says if you want a wood board to paint on why not go get one at the lumber yard? Sure, you would - and you can pick up any kind of wood you like from the cheapest Hemlock Fir to any of the exotics - but what if you want the door to your den done in Rosewood, or Thuja Burl. Wanna get a price on that? Or panelling the whole room in Quartered Light Oak. Graining has traditionally been done in homes for just this purpose - and it's been sign painters that did the work - the builders will use cheaper woods & materials and have a grainer make it LOOK like a better grade of stuff. If you have furniture made of all different finishes and want it all to match - pick a graining technique and match it up.
What about the dashboard on an antique car? You can carve one - or you can grain one - it's about the only 2 ways to get it done on all those curved surfaces. You can't just glue on vinyl wood-look contact paper. Shep gets paid well to grain a dash - I can't carve worth a darn, but imagine the cost of having one done by a sculptor. I am a painter, though...it's within my reach.
Another thing about real wood: you get the pattern nature gives you. If you can grain you can manipulate the design. Knots or no knots? Wavy grain that makes a design exactly where you want it. Color; pearls, metallics, chameleons, inlay, airbrushing - only limit is your imagination.
It was a popular thing to do in the '70s to run a faux finish down the 'Beauty Band' on vans, though I seldom saw any that looked much like wood - most shops did an Okey-Doke by spraying on some lacquer paint and wiping it real fast with a sheet of Saran Wrap. But you could make it a 'Woody' with paint a lot easier than cutting and attaching veneers.
As regards sign work - you don't always HAVE to knock everybody's eye out with a Shep Job on a project. There are fast & easy ways to simulate a wood grain for a background or a frame on a board or metal sign, just as there are quick sho-cards and nice gold leaf jobs - it's good to have all the tools at your disposal.