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Ian Stewart-Koster
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Work's been really busy lately, and I had five horse-drawn vehicles in here last month to stripe, plus other stuff which tended to get pushed aside...

I tend to 'lose touch' after not doing some for a bit, and it takes a little bit of time to get warmed up to do the really fine stuff again. Thicker stuff is easy in comparison.

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Side-on, in the show ring:
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Close-up of the P, thanks to Tony Vickio & Al Bradt!:
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I'd still like to get it back and do a bit more on that overhead board- the ribbony folds didn't show up quite as clearly in this light as I'd have liked.

P.S. I did use a mask for the main lettering, to keep the excess leaf away from where I didn't want it to land, but the P was entirely freehand without any masking. I actually did it by painting the leafy bits first, then putting whiting over them all, and sizing and applying the variagated leaf, then sizing & doing the Al leaf, then finally the gold, and lastly the tedious copious outlines, then the double shade in black & victoria blue. It's about 16-18" tall, from memory.

[ August 11, 2010, 08:33 PM: Message edited by: Ian Stewart-Koster ]

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Here's another vehicle- a gig:

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With the monogram (the initials GES on the dash & seatback) I actually painted them in maroon, then put goldsize down over the top afterwards & gilded it, rather than gilding first & then outlining it. It was just easier this back-to-front way, I figured.

Enjoy!

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Ian, that is AWESOME! On the subject of pricing do you mind me asking what you charged for these and how many hours you had in them?

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Sick work Ian.. just plain sick!

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Here's a job I was asking about recently also- all routed- the first push-through lettering we've ever done, plus the cube above the door, plus a 3d HDU arty thing of a lot of currency symbols joined & overlapping at different thicknesses.
That actually took a LOT of thinking to ensure we did't gouge or chop out any bits too deep where it shouldn't have been...

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Another company actually fabricated the cube & the rest of the lightbox- we just made & fitted & did the routed face of the front, and translucent vinyl for the cube.
It was all painted in 2-pack yellow, hence the slight mottledness in the cube.

[ August 11, 2010, 08:13 PM: Message edited by: Ian Stewart-Koster ]

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Thanks!
Kelsey, the creamy gig was 35 hours, which included hand-sewing leather up the shafts. Price was at what we call 'mate's rates' over here, which was 2/3 of our intended normal shop rate of $85ph.
I also had to undo it & sand & repaint the shafts, dash & seat, in that time, as the former finish on it was too rough to think about doing any striping on.

The Panorama Lorry, I have not added up the hours on it, (too many!) but I am hoping to get 8 tons of feed barley to use as stock-feed later in the year, which will bring us even at about $2500 worth.
It's mostly aluminium leaf, except for the P which has variegated leaf in the centre, and 23 ct gold in the thickish outline.

Now, what would YOU have charged? [Wink]


Oh, the little scrolls on the spoke bases were entirely freehand- no pencilling, pouncing, chalkmarks, charcoal or any other indication of size or spacing, I 'just did them'.

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ON looking at them, some of those photos of the gig aren't the latest- I ran a fine line of the background colour through the centre of ALL of the yellow-ochre broad lines, including the perimeter of the seat, and all the body chamfers & spoke sides; so that it makes the broad lines look like a double-broad line, & gives the whole thing a bit more finesse.

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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I was thinking around $2000- $2500 but the lettering for me would have taken a lot longer... doesn't mean I can charge more. Excellent work, especially the freehand scroll stuff on the spokes.

Nice to get a feel for others pricing though, thank you!

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Excellent job!

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What George said....


WOW.

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WOW! That is awesome work Ian, I am awed.
Did I say wow?!

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Gorgeous Ian... simply gorgeous!!

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Your carriage work has always been breathtaking

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Really nice to see both the traditional and the modern work, Ian.
You are certainly versatile!
Especially love the gig.
Thanks for sharing.
Love....Jill

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Ian, I'm speechless. Outstanding.

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I knew you were good, but geesh.

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Ian, how the heck did you get enough PATIENCE to do all those spokes, & so perfectly?

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Thanks for the compliment, Bobbie, but they're not it perfect, they just kind-of look it- and it's knowing that doesn't actually have to 'be' right, it just has to 'look' right, which helps!

As for 'How' well you just take a deep breath & do it. It took a fair bit of rougher or plainer work on another vehicle to 'warm up' to doing the fine stuff again.
It helps to do it late in the evening I find- I'm more relaxed after nightfall & everything's quiet & you can just get lost in or engrossed in the work.

P.S. There are 16 spokes per wheel, so you quickly start counting backwards from 32!

[ August 20, 2010, 08:25 AM: Message edited by: Ian Stewart-Koster ]

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Truely some fine work there Ian...Just last week we visited the Cardston Carriage Museum in Alberta...It was fantastic, spent most of the day there as they rebuild and repair carriages and buggy and well, just everything horse drawn. Fantastic work Ian, wonderful.

[ August 20, 2010, 12:34 PM: Message edited by: Pat Welter ]

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hey Stewey ... any way to bottle up some of that talent so that you could sell some to slobs like me?

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If it helps, Si, I'll swap you with some of your talent on a 50:50 basis- by email- here goes.....zap!

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Stewey - great work - thinking outside the dodecahedron again........

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As always, Sonny- life is art without an eraser, as someone famous once wrote!!!

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Exquisite - thanks for sharing!

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