-------------------- Neil White Sign Magic Melton, VIC Australia whitey@primus.com.au Posts: 277 | From: australia | Registered: Dec 1999
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Yeah, I can see you need more practice. Someday you might be fairly good.
Hells bells, Neil, you passed good eons ago. You are beyond WTF stage now.
Your work is absolutely amazing. I really dig the color in with the b/w illustration. Very cool touch. That wolf is very scary...
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"Things work out best for the people who make the best of the way things work out." - Art Linkletter Posts: 6451 | From: Saint Cloud, Minnesota | Registered: Jun 1999
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So that's what's wrong with my airbrushing. I'm trying to work with Paasche and Iwata brushes. I gotta get me one of those 20/20's cause they do good work.
-------------------- Pat Whatley Montgomery, AL (334) 262-7446 office (334) 324-8465 cell Posts: 1306 | From: Wetumpka, AL USA | Registered: Mar 2001
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Thanks for all the comments. I need more practice because it takes me longer then I would like to produce a painting, plus there are some areas I would like to improve. Jon if I did the fridge at the Oz meet I wouldn't get to sleep trying to finish it in time. The paint I use is just a water based made in Oz.
-------------------- Neil White Sign Magic Melton, VIC Australia whitey@primus.com.au Posts: 277 | From: australia | Registered: Dec 1999
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Here's my usual third-dergree of questions! What size is it? Did you prepare the canvas in any way to accept the waterbased paint, or is it straight from the store?
Is the indian in grey done in just a diluted black? I can't make out any red or bluey tinge to the grey, though the dark background on the left looks just a whisker orangey on this monitor.
The wolf's colours look great. I'm guessing you did it all in transparent grey, then overlaid the transparent colours for the wolf- did you freehand it totally, or mask the tongue & teeth a bit?
This isn't a criticism, just an observation, but should the white bits on his headgear and that thing under his chin, plus his cheeks have a bit more texture in them, or are they meant to have a bit of a soft focus & out of the depth-of-field of the wolf?
You took on a tough project, with all that hair, and all those woolly bits in the headgear, and still kept the overall pic light- it's so easy to get too dark.
Was the Sotar an aussie purchase, or did it come from USA?
With letterheads-oz in Hobart, you'll have to come over- it's now going to be the third weekend in September, from memory- around the 25th- not in October as previously thought, the dates clashed with either the NZ meet or the Sydney Sign Show. so it was brought earlier by a bit, into school holidays time.
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"...there are no limits when you aim for perfection..." Jonathan Livingston Seagull Posts: 7014 | From: Highgrove via Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia | Registered: Dec 2002
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One last thing- I made the same 'misplacement' in a pic I did a while ago: the white highlight in his left eye, I feel, needs to be slid over to his right a bit, and could be softer. The same point of reflection should appear on the wolf's nose, and maybe on the 'pearls' around his neck- they all look ok, but the spot in his eye is just a tad off, IMHO. It's easily done, and I've been guilty of the same thing- to be set right by other folks here, which was great.
Good stuff, though! Makes me want to get back to it.
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"...there are no limits when you aim for perfection..." Jonathan Livingston Seagull Posts: 7014 | From: Highgrove via Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia | Registered: Dec 2002
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"...there are no limits when you aim for perfection..." Jonathan Livingston Seagull Posts: 7014 | From: Highgrove via Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia | Registered: Dec 2002
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Good one, Jon- if Leonardo were alive, I'd probably think up something to ask him!!!
Neil did an airbrushing course a longish time ago. So did I- the same course, but with a different tutor a couple of years later than he did, but with the same paints & processes & theory, so I can 'see' into what he's doing, & where he's at, and am thinking aloud as if it were my work I am trying to improve upon or wonder about.
Getting 'old-man' facial textures right is something I have trouble mastering, but hair is getting OK.
I'm sure he doesn't mind, & understands the questions! To me the story of the path or journey is as good as and as important as the finished article.
I often think too many post here, without much in the way of explanations, and those who do offer the great details make the threads all the more interesting, informative & valuable.
((gee I ramble on, don't I...sneaking off for a cuppa now...!))
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"...there are no limits when you aim for perfection..." Jonathan Livingston Seagull Posts: 7014 | From: Highgrove via Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia | Registered: Dec 2002
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P.P.S. I received the same kinds of advice here a few years ago about some of my airbrushing, and the constructive hints from the few who knew really where I was at, were really valuable.
(Ok I can hear the kettle boiling, I' m going now!)
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"...there are no limits when you aim for perfection..." Jonathan Livingston Seagull Posts: 7014 | From: Highgrove via Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia | Registered: Dec 2002
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Jon, you're right about the 'you have to know when to stop' and I'll add 'and you mustn't change your mind about it & restart, either'
There reaches a time when it just gets worse & worse. Though, that was one good part about the course we did, where we did a section on rescuing disasters, but you have to change from transparent processes to opaque processes, and then deviate back again. It was tedious, but good to know it was possible & to be able to do it.
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"...there are no limits when you aim for perfection..." Jonathan Livingston Seagull Posts: 7014 | From: Highgrove via Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia | Registered: Dec 2002
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quote:how far do we go before we satisfy our own pefection!
good point- it depends on who we're doing it for- a customer, time & price-driven, or a relative/letterhead/friend, quality-driven.
((that kettle's boiling again, see ya!))
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"...there are no limits when you aim for perfection..." Jonathan Livingston Seagull Posts: 7014 | From: Highgrove via Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia | Registered: Dec 2002
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