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I've doodled around with some of these before, but this is the first one to make it from the sketchbook to the scanner and get vectorized. What do you think?
-------------------- Chris O'Brien Cape Cod, MA Posts: 183 | From: Cape Cod MA | Registered: Jan 2005
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I think you could make the down stroke on the "n" a little shorter so that the P reads better.
-------------------- Phil Steffen, 29 Van Rensselaer St City of Saratoga Springs DPW Saratoga Springs NY 12866 Posts: 563 | From: beautiful Saratoga Springs NY | Registered: Aug 2001
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ANYBODY who takes the time to do one of those has my vote.
I read passion right away, then a second later my brain started making an "L" out of the "P"-!!!
otherwise, I would have done a completely different digitization of the last half of the word so that it isn't obvious that it was flipped and mirrored.
-------------------- Michael Gene Adkins The Fontry 1576 S Hwy 59 Watts OK 74964 Posts: 845 | From: Watts, OK USA | Registered: Jun 1999
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quote:Originally posted by Michael Gene Adkins: otherwise, I would have done a completely different digitization of the last half of the word so that it isn't obvious that it was flipped and mirrored.
Michael, I'm curious about what you meant by this? I mess around with ambigrams occasionally and thought they had to look exactly the same when flipped over... (not counting color, etc.) Can you explain what you had in mind?
-------------------- Jon Jantz Snappysign.com jjantz21@gmail.com http://www.allcw.com Posts: 3395 | From: Atmore, AL | Registered: Nov 2005
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sure it has to look the same, but I meant not the same down to the identical bumps from the node positioning. Of course this is just my opinion, but I thought it would look better if the actual vectors on the other half of the artwork had slightly different variations, so they don't look EXACTLY 100% the same. I'm sure when this was hand drawn it didn't look EXACTLY the same, yet I'm sure it still worked fine like that, and translating that into the final design would maybe make it less obvious what is going on and make it look a little more spontaneous/hand-drawn.
Of course the only ambigram I can do is the letter I-!!! So who am "I" to say?-!!!
anyway, just an opinion---
-------------------- Michael Gene Adkins The Fontry 1576 S Hwy 59 Watts OK 74964 Posts: 845 | From: Watts, OK USA | Registered: Jun 1999
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Ok.. hey thanks for explaining. I don't know either what the rules are or if there are any... I've done several of these too and was just curious...
-------------------- Jon Jantz Snappysign.com jjantz21@gmail.com http://www.allcw.com Posts: 3395 | From: Atmore, AL | Registered: Nov 2005
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A design that may be read as the same word or phrase (or sometimes two different words or phrases) when oriented in two different ways, usually when reflected in a vertical axis or when rotated through 180 degrees.
I didn't find any graphic rules as to whether it had to be a perfect reflection.
[ July 25, 2008, 07:47 AM: Message edited by: Terry Baird ]
-------------------- Terry Baird Baird Signs 3484 West Lake Rd. Canandaigua, NY 14424 Posts: 790 | From: Canandaigua, New York | Registered: Dec 2002
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That's the explanation I was looking for!!!
thanx Terry.
In my opinion, which counts for little here, it shouldn't be a "perfect reflection"
the first time I ever saw an ambigram, a signpainter friend was working up the word "magician"
It wasn't her original concept, of course, but it was so well done that it gave no hint at first glance that it was an ambigram. In fact, I was looking at it upside from where she was working at her desk and stupidly asked her why she was working on it upside down!
-------------------- Michael Gene Adkins The Fontry 1576 S Hwy 59 Watts OK 74964 Posts: 845 | From: Watts, OK USA | Registered: Jun 1999
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Love it, very very cool. That's DESIGN in its best essence because you need a piece of paper, a pencil and a BRAIN.... computers will not give anyone talent !