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Tim Borden asked that I post this design for suggestions, comments (both of the positive and negative evaluations on the layout) and for any Photoshop or vector "effects" treatments of the elements he has that you might suggest that would make this black and white logo come to life.
Please be constructive but honest (in a compassionate sort of way.....) He's trying to learn here, and any visual suggestions would be appreciated.
Edit: Oh, almost forgot - this logo as I understand it, will be used on a web page....so any effects, color suggestions relating to this application would be helpful.
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I for one, like the sign shape from the midway vertical point - down. The General Store banner shape/text and the way it lays over the bottom of the sign blank look great to me.
I like the banjo creating the "O" in "Acoustic." I think this visually works well.
I don't particularly like the font for some reason, and I'd say the tail on the "C" that wraps around the banjo body seems forced and doesn't really compliment the flow of the banner below it.
The upper half of the sign shape doesn't appeal to me. I think something with less "corners" and change of direction would be better - kind of like the bottom half.....I say, let the neck and headstock of the banjo stick right out of the sign shape and eliminate the "bulge" that currently encapsulates the headstock.
If I get time, I might work up a modification and post it...but I'm pretty jammed for the next few days....so stay tuned.
-------------------- Todd Gill Outside The Lines Potterville, MI Posts: 7792 | From: Potterville, MI | Registered: Dec 2001
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by no means I'm a expert seen to way just in this forum alone many outstanding designs & layouts also advise that I know I've got lots to learn 1st seen ...was the space around the neck of banjo ....can you reduce and or pop the neck out of panel 2nd seen... was how crowded it was on bottom but really likes the design as a whole and layout much better then the other one also
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I would try to lower the top of the border to where the head (not sure it's called that) of the banjo will stick out of the frame. Overall I find the border a bit too dominant and top heavy. It draws attention away from the lettering and to all that empty space around the banjo. By lowering the top you will bring the main copy of text more into the centre of the design. Maybe give the banjo body a slightly heavier outline or shadow to emphasize the letter O. It has an old fashioned feeling with the border and the ribbon, which is not a bad thing if that's what you want. Overall it's a very good idea to start designing black and white and I think you have a good starting point. Hope this helps.
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I see more than one or two fixes, but a quick fix, w/what you have; would be to give the banjo a strap, and emulate a ribbon in the wind, taking up only enough area to offset negative space....
-------------------- Frank Magoo, Magoo's-Las Vegas; fmagoo@netzero.com "the only easy day was yesterday" Posts: 2365 | From: Las Vegas, Nv. | Registered: Jun 2003
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Somethings working with the banjo, and the period banner. The font and the border look great but different period. Making that banjo look like distressed like Willie Nelsons guitar and a distressed 30's/40's period rectangle border could be killer.
Even thought I have nothing close to contribute, this one clicked for my taste.
-------------------- Ron Helliar Marysville Sign 11807 51st Ave. NE Marysville, WA 98271 (360) 659-4856 Posts: 263 | From: Marysville, WA USA | Registered: Feb 1999
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I don't like the bottom of the S over the ribbon and the space behind the neck of the banjo looks weak, too much space, really like the font and use of the banjo as the O.
-------------------- Steve Broughton Alpha Grafix Signs Lowfields Road Benington, Boston Lincolnshire, England Posts: 315 | From: Boston, Lincolnshire, England | Registered: Aug 2001
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Todd I like it very much but I see it with a drum under the S.
-------------------- Steve Eisenreich Dezine Signs PO BOX 6052 Stn Forces Cold Lake, Alberta T9M 2C5 Posts: 774 | From: Cold Lake | Registered: Mar 2000
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I initially wrote 2-3 weeks ago. I already have a problem with depression, and a divorce and probability of losing my home of 27 years dropped me to a new level of depression. To compound matters, someone I trusted in my home "borrowed" my medication. For those who read the initial post, and thought I was down, unfortunately I slipped further. Other than a family tragedy, the past Saturday thru Wednesday were the worst days I remember having. I'm so naive and trusting, this isn't the first time it's happened, so I couldn't blame the Doc for making me wait to write a new prescription. I think we're all professionals here, and the Doc was just following the rules. I just can't get used to hiding stuff in my own home. I've told my Doc, 2 sisters, and a friend where the meds are now hidden. It would take a K9 unit to find them now.
And as you know, when you're self-employed, you don't call in sick.
I used a banjo because it's a symbol of our primary market. If you absolutely hate the sound of today's 3 finger picking style, look up a site that has "clawhammer banjo". This is how a banjo was played before Earl Scruggs. Listen carefully when to truck or other outdoor product commercials. You wouldn't believe how many feature Bluegrass and Old Time music as background music.
As I wrote Todd, I wasn't comfortable with the open area above the headstock. I naturally wanted the head stock of the banjo to extend beyond the border, but wasn't sure it was big enough to make an impact.
I've revised it more according to Todd's suggestions. I want to leave the "S" over the ribbon. Although it's not visually correct, with beveled letters and a soft shadow, I think it adds to the look. BUT, I could be wrong on that one.
What do you think of a wood finish vs. a distressed metal sign. I have Eye Candy, so that's not a problem.
I vectorized this banjo years ago, and I'll send it in an EPS format to anyone who wants to play with it.
I very much appreciate the encouragement I've received. The situation hasn't changed, but I'm back on my meds, and feel as close to normal as I ever could.
Thanks, Tim
-------------------- Tim Borden Speedy's Signs & Banners Jasper, AL
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Tim, I wish you well with the various challenges you face. I've had some family and personal crisis in my life this past month & I know it's had an effect on my work, my marriage & my sense of well being. I'm glad to see you still working on this project & reaping some of the many benefits this extended community has always been a source of for me and so many others.
I had thought recently of my own musical hobby as a stress relief I should seek out, & was fortunate to run into a musician friend on Friday who asked me to sit in for a gig at a private party last night. I usually play the full drum kit, but for this low key acoustic set I brought my congas & had a wonderful time.
Anyway I'm enjoying a nice mellow Sunday with little I have to attend to, so I came up with a few variations of my own to add to your current design approach. Maybe some of my ideas will help spark wherever you end up going with this. Good luck!
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He's trying to learn here, and any visual suggestions would be appreciated.
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