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Raymond Chapman
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Not too long ago I was asked by a local developer to design a logo and entrance sign for his new project. It was called "Terra Bella" (Beautiful Land) and needed an Italian feel since the streets all had Italian names.

He needed a temporary entrance sign until the wall was built and also signs on each lot along with some artwork for a brochure and business cards.

I proposed several ideas and he choose the one shown below. We also designed the rock wall that would border each side of the gated entrance. Since he made several trips to Italy each year he wanted a ceramic tile sign inset into the limestone wall, and the tile was to be fired in Italy.

So, we made the temporary site sign using a digital print of the logo and also made him a CD with the logo in several different formats so the tile guy in Italy could work from my artwork. A copy of the logo was emailed ahead just to be sure that he knew what everything looked like. There was also to be a small monogram fired for use on each side of the entrance.

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The rock wall and entrance gate was constructed, leaving an inset space for the ceramic tile when it arrived from Italy.

The developer called several months later and said the sign was installed and looked great. He also said that the tile guy had made some suggestions to improve the design..to keep it from looking so plain. A red flag went up in my brain.

Here's what was installed: (notice any improvements?)

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The monogram had also been improved and ended up like this, which was not very much like my artwork except that it had TB on it.

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This is a photo of the wall and gate I designed. Notice that the sign was placed almost to the edge of the top curve. It was supposed to have been further to the left, more in the center of the wall, but evidently the mason couldn't read the measurements...or just ignored them. There is a mirror image wall on the other side.

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The developer was pleased with the results and really couldn't tell that the sign was in the wrong place or that you couldn't read it from a distance.

Oh well, I got paid for what I did and the mason, tile man, concrete guy....everyone got paid, so there was no harm done.

But, sometimes I just have to stop and wonder, "What were they thinking?"

[ April 05, 2007, 02:48 PM: Message edited by: Raymond Chapman ]

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Temple, Texas
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Rene Giroux
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They weren't... [I Don t Know]

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Rene Giroux
Perfexion.ca
Gatineau, QC.

www.renegiroux.com


I'd rather regret things I did than things I didn't do!

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Paul Bierce
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I'd be willing to bet that the tile guy got more money out of the client for his so-called "improvement".

Some people just can't leave well enough alone.

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Paul Bierce - Designer
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I'd be willing to bet that the tile guy got more money out of the client for his so-called "improvement".

Some people just can't leave well enough alone.

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Paul Bierce - Designer
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"the tile guy" improving on YOUR design????? I define that as arrogance, plain and simple - not to mention several other adjectives that come to mind. Sorta like taking a Lambourgini and adding a set of cow horns to the hood to make it look better, huh Tex? [Smile] You gonna put that in your portfolio Rainman?

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Ricky Jackson
Signs Now
614 Russell Parkway
Warner Robins, GA
(478) 923-7722
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Ray Rheaume
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"What were they thinking?"

Geez, that looks good, but we wanted something fugly. For example....this!

or

Sure we wanted a sign...just not a legible one.

Maybe next time I need my bathroom floor done, I'll hire a sign guy.
[Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] Sheesh.
Rapid

[ April 05, 2007, 03:55 PM: Message edited by: Ray Rheaume ]

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Ray Rheaume
Rapidfire Design
543 Brushwood Road
North Haverhill, NH 03774
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I like my paint shaken, not stirred.

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Jillbeans
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Oh, Raymond....
That looks TERRA BULLA.
[Frown]
Love....Jill

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Proof that not every italian is a Michelangelo.


[Rolling On The Floor]

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Lotti Prokott
Woodland Signs
Pelly, Saskatchewan
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Terry Bull Sign & Custom
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Jill
leave me out of it !

So its not going in your portfolio Raymond

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Terry Bull
Sign & Custom
Grays Essex England

www.signandcustom.webeden.co.uk
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Craig Sjoquist
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that is such a shame when ya had it so nice and well thought out ,th4eey all made big error by confirming with you before thay did the work and improvements ..BET you get the blame when ppl say they can't find the place.. lol lol lol ... even the best designers like yourself get hit with naysayers wow
thank you n enjoy life

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Craig Sjoquist
http://www.592sign.net
3220 N.O.B.T
Orlando Fl. 407-592-7446 vikinwolf@gmail.com

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Wow, now if only he would have made the lettering light blue to give it a little more readability and excitement.

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Dawud Shaheed
Sign Scientist
Durham (triangle area) N.C
919 685 7641
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I absolutely can't believe your customer was not appalled at that sign!

It looks horrible. I hope you didn't see it for the first time in front of your customer, because when I saw the second pic I actually gasped out loud.

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Randy
Graphic Details
Promotional Merchandise Distributor
South Glens Falls, NY

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Oh.................that hurts [Eek!]

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George Perkins
Millington,TN.
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"I started out with nothing and still have most of it left"

www.perkinsartworks.com

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Quick... pat me on the back... I'm choking.

My condolenses.

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Bruce Bowers

DrCAS Custom Lettering and Design
Saint Cloud, Minnesota


"Things work out best for the people who make the best of the way things work out." - Art Linkletter

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How'd they get the bullet holes spaced so evenly in the tiles? I think Ricky must be sighting in a new toy, far away from the Canadian border.

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David Harding
A Sign of Excellence
Carrollton, TX

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A perfect example of why we should not be hurt by clients choices. So often they don't have a clue.

Rationalising doesn't always help though, does it?

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Arthur Vanson
Bucks Signs
Chesham, Buckinghamshire,
England
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Gee lucky you did'nt interfere with the Tiling Ray. Some times I wish I could switch my brain over to what clients really think.

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Mark Stokes
Mark Stokes Signs
Mount Barker South Australia

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I've had that type of thing happen to me on occasion... but you won't see the pics in my portfolio either.

Take a deep breath Raymond... and hope better for next time.

Nice design the first go around!

-grampa dan

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Dan Sawatzky
Imagination Corporation
Yarrow, British Columbia
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Mama Mia! [Eek!]

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Janette Balogh
Creative Studio

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What a great opportunity to use this example in the next situation.

Possibly the next time the customer would realize the importance to be true to the origianl design.

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Bob Rochon
Creative Signworks
Millbury, MA
508-865-7330

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I think this should go on the front page of your web site when you get one.

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Mark Yearwood
Yearwood Design Works
Tecumseh, OK
www.yearwooddesignworks.com
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Raymond Chapman
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Thanks Mark...you always know just the right thing to say.

Hey...I do need a web site, don't I?

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Chapman Sign Studio
Temple, Texas
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Just pocket the money and walk away ... to tell the truth the client is probably too overwhelmed by the tiling price to admit it sucks!

Actually all that tile design needs is more subtle colors.

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aka Jon Butterworth

Executive Director
HARDLY NORMAL
SIGN COMPANY

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OUCH! I think that should go into your portfolio alongside a picture of your design with a heading that reads - "When others interfere..."
Maybe that will make the next guy think he should trust YOUR judgement.

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-Winnie the Pooh & A.A. Milne

Kelly Thorson
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Holdfast, SK
S0G 2H0
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When flooring designers become signwriters we can all retire......NOT!!!!

Nice sign - on a bathroom floor somewhere so that you can wipe your feet on it!

Love the original BTW

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Anne McDonald
17 Karnak Crescent
Russley
Christchurch 8042
New Zealand

"I used to be indecisive, now I'm not so sure"

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The original is beautiful.

What they got was "fancy" [Rolling On The Floor] [Rolling On The Floor] [Rolling On The Floor]

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Dave Sherby
"Sandman"
SherWood Sign & Graphic Design
Crystal Falls, MI 49920
906-875-6201
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