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Fergus, ON, Canada
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Amy Brown
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Well this was one of those never ending projects where everything that could go wrong did go wrong. But, we learned a lot! This is where my daughter just graduated from pre-school on Sunday.

The main sanctuary sign is two sheets of 1 1/2" thick HDU laminated together with pvc pipe in the middle used to run threaded rod through for mounting. Main copy is v-carved. The hour board is 1/2" HDU that is removable for changing purposes. The stained glass was set in one side with a smaller hole and lip with silicone II. On the other side we made an insert to hold it in place and so it was removable should the glass get broken. Post caps are HDU, posts are 4.75" PVC. The gold appliques on the post are 1/8" thick v-carved HDU. I asked them to do something about those ugly lights. I can't get a good picture because they are in the way.

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The message board is 1 1/2" HDU laminated to Dibond. The main copy is v-carved and the bottom is changable lettering track. HDU post caps, wood finial, 4x4 PVC posts. Perfect timing for my daughters graduation and sign pictures.

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In this picture you can see where the bird stained glass idea came from. It is in the churches front window. The church was built in the 1890's I believe. There is a gold smalts sign in one spot which I think may be original. I'm not sure though.

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[ May 25, 2004, 10:06 AM: Message edited by: Amy Brown ]

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Excellent job, Amy!!! [Applause]

Joe,
Makin Chips and Havin Fun!

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Joe Cieslowski
Connecticut Woodcarvers Gallery
P.O.Box 368
East Canaan CT 06024
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Amy,

Wow! Beautiful signs. I also like the gold diamonds on the posts. Thanks for sharing these.

Thanks,
Steve
P.S. Where did you get the 4.75 PVC posts?

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Steve Racz
Racz's Handcarved Signs

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Wow! They must be thrilled Amy! That is really
a damn nice sign!!!

Suelynn

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Sedor Signs
Carnduff, SK Canada

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Looks sweet Amy,

Not sure if I missed you mentioning it, did you cut the glass too?

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Alan Ackerson
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. . .I love before and after pics!
. . .if they do'nt make people see the importance of attractive, effective signage nothing will.
Great contrast to use in your photo album. If I came in your shop and saw these pictures I would have complete faith in your talent and abilities.

Beautiful job Amy!! I LOVE the stained glass insert! How creative it was to think of using it, honoring the historic value of this particular church.

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Great job Amy. They sure got their moneys worth. I like the blue background better than white.

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Bob Stephens
Skywatch Signs
Zephyrhills, FL

www.skywatchsigns.com
www.skywatchgallery.com

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Very rich, ... nothing overdone.
Stately, yet friendly!

I love it Amy! BRAVO!

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Janette Balogh
Creative Studio

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Amy Brown
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Thanks everyone!

Steve, we got the PVC posts at Lowe's by the PVC fencing supplies.

Alan, we contracted out the stained glass which ended up being a lot more difficult than we imagined. We ended up making a prototype from PVC of the exact thickness needed as well as mounting template from beaded styrofoam with the area the glass layed and the piece that inserted into the hole holding the glass so the lady who made it could have exact dimensions. I also drew her a pattern on the plotter. Now she wants a plotter so she can draw out her glass patterns on paper to scale!!

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Amy Brown
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great job on design and execution amy.

nice work.

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Mark Fair Signs
2162 Mt. Meigs Road
Montgomery, Alabama 36107

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Amy, I'm curious what you used to make that gold insert that goes through the hole where the stained glass is.
The whole thing just looks great. Now I want a router...can't I ever just be happy?????

Suelynn [Roll Eyes] [Big Grin]

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Sedor Signs
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Hey Suelynn,

I'll try to explain this the best I can. For one side we only cutout the hole the exact size. That piece had an area bigger than the hole routed down about 1/4" so the stained glass had a lip to sit on. Then on the front side we just cut a ring from HDU 1/2" thick to fit on front and applied with epoxy.

On the other side with the insert we cut the hole big enough for the stained glass to be able to come out. We then made the insert to fit in that bigger hole and the opening the same size as the hole on side 1 above. You lost yet??

Here is a quick pict of what the side view would look like.

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It was one piece and inserted into the hole and I used very light epoxy on the sides to hold in place.

Hope that makes sense. If not, send your number and I'll call.

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Amy,
ya done good kid.
BEAUTIFUL!
love
jill

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Great work Amy! ....as always!

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Kelly Thorson
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Wow Amy! That's a beautiful piece.
Yer work just keeps getting better.


Stevo

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Amy, that is simply an outstanding job! Well done!!!

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Well done Amy!

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Park Sign
Collingwood, Ontario
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[Applause] [Applause] [Applause] [Applause]

As usual, a fine job by Ambo Design! You are too cool gal.

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Kathy Joiner
River Road Graphics
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Ponchatoula, La.70454

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Amy,
Great work, the 4.75" PVC posts, do you have wooden posts inside them or are they strong enough to use alone?

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Mark Perkins
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Eunice, Louisiana
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Amy, that's a very nice sign. Putting that kind of work out there on the street is going to bring more work your way, and it does a lot for the looks of your community too. [Applause]

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Jeff Ogden
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Gainesville FL, 32609

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you go girl! that is stunnning! i love the stain glass...i use my plotter to cut out calender vinyl for my glass pieces...the time it saves is amazing!

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Simply Not Ordinary, LLC
Bartlett, NH
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Thanks a lot everyone! My husband and I are trying real hard to set a reputation for higher quality work than anyone else around here. Hopefully it will start rolling in more steadily.

In regard to the PVC posts, yes there is a 4x4 PT wood post inside. They were small but we shimmed them into the middle and pre-drilled the holes for the threaded rod to go through. When we tightened the nuts the wood posts were drawn to the middle. The wood posts were also longer than the PVC allowing us to get more depth.

Thanks again for the compliments! [Big Grin]

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a big bump up.

in my humble opinion this sign works very well in it's environment, complimenting the architecture of the church. (great perspective on the photo)

this is a wonderful example of the connection between Art, Aestetics and Signage.

i came back to your post several times today just for inspiration.

that church sign rocks amy,

mark

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Montgomery, Alabama 36107

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