I'm new here but have just finished my first custom paint job using Createx Auto Air and I'm really pleased. Haven't used my airbrush in years and I am so getting back into it!
Looking forward to some feedback
Beej
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Hi Brian, Welcome to Letterville. Really nice job, let's see some more...
-------------------- Terry Baird Baird Signs 3484 West Lake Rd. Canandaigua, NY 14424 Posts: 790 | From: Canandaigua, New York | Registered: Dec 2002
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Nice work! You definitely have the skills down for 3-D. I have always admired this technique, don't airbrush though. I'd like to also see these textures in blue combos, yellow and purple combos, silver and greens, oh I could go on and on What a treat, thanks for posting!
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Very nice looking work! I've been thinking about trying some of their products to see how they compare for flow and fine detail work.
Did you start with a red automotive painted tank or is the background colour Createx as well. What did you clear it with after the artwork was finished?
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I visited your website. There is some nice artwork there. Great job on the bike as well.
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Kelly Thorson Kel-T-Grafix 801 Main St. Holdfast, SK S0G 2H0 ktg@sasktel.net Posts: 5499 | From: Penzance, Saskatchewan | Registered: May 2002
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Yes its definately beautiful work, but I'm from the school Stephen speaks of, using the correct materials. Createx has never lasted due to ultra violet rays in the long haul. Maybe its new formular will, time will tell. Proven materials such as automotive paints have always been the choice of professionals even though the cost is higher, the work lasts longer.
Hey, ya can always use that stuff on a T-Shirt what it was originally made for
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Very Hip Art on tank. I am interest in How long before the Ultra Violet Lite Burns out the color Shown Here. When it comes to Tank Art I use HOC I have not come across anything Better. I hate to do a great job and 6 months later it's faded in spots. NO MORE Of That,Learned back in the 70's. Keep us posted. As I said Very Hip Design.
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"Keep The Rubber Side Down" Posts: 213 | From: Tujunga, California | Registered: Mar 2003
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Since I've had to pay twice for paint where I used Createx in the past, I'd be interested in the longevity. Very noticable is the lack of a high gloss finish. Love the work.
Thanks so much for the kind words, I feel at home already!
OK, for all the doubters and the 'old school' HoK people, here's what I know and it's all I know so I can only comment on that:
I've wanted to airbrush vehicles since I was 13, I am now 40 and although I have done a fair bit of airbrushing in the past, I have never taken paint to a panel or tank simply because I didn't like the idea of working with that type of paint - it scared me off and I kinda missed my opportunities.
So, I read about this 'new' water-based paint and think, yeah, I'd like to see that! I try it and it's great but there seems to be confusion between the term Createx and the actual AUOTO AIR paint that Createx have developed. Here are the words from their site on color-fast etc..
'Auto Air Colors are made with lightfast, permanent automotive grade pigments and colorants that are intended and designed for automotive applications. The binders used are durable and an automotive grade. The Auto Air Colors are what the automotive paint industry is evolving into which is a durable, lightfast and non-toxic color.'
Any of you who know about custom art will have heard of Vince Goodeve, well he's just completed a truck and bike job using this paint and it looks pretty good to me!
A friend of mine who does car repairs in the UK says that water-based auto paint is becoming more the 'norm' and that BMW spray a good deal of their stock in waterbased so, it must be lightfast chaps!
I have a new Iwata HP-BC .2mm needled gun and the newest version of Auto Air (in fact it's so new it's difficult to get all the colors in the UK) is the DETAIL 4200 range of colours which are made for .2mm airbrushes and above. The standard Auto Air is for .5mm and above and I believe, the original Createx paint is what is used for T-Shirts, this is a whole new beast and believe me, I have just been working on some new detailed sections of the seat unit on the bike and I am getting incredible, freehand detail.
Are you reading this Craig, I want my share of sponsorship free paints mate, please!
Just to balance the argument, I went out and bought the HoK chip book (damned expensive that was!!) and it looks like truly awesome stuff. yes, it is amazing and it has history behind it, but progression is the way of the world and I can still remember a signwriter friend of mine saying to me in the 80's, if they ever make printing onto vinyl a real thing, I'm finished.
Well, they did and he isn't!
Have any of you ever used water-based oils for painting a portrait? Technology is a great thing and if it benefits my health, the environment and my workshop budget (hey, no fans!) then I'm loving like I never loved any other paint ever!
Just my artistic 2cents!
Peace.
Oh and BTW, the tank took me about 3 weeks but I had real problems with an old airbrush and I was doing it in my spare time, real time would be about a weeks work including priming. The red base coat is Auto Air and this went onto white Base Coat Sealer which is designed to go straight onto any 2-pack primer.
The Base Coat Sealer sanded down beautifully ready formthe red top coat (almost immidiately), you have to heat cure it as you go and believe me it's very strange to see the paint self-flatten as it dries!
I then painted the detail straight onto the red, getting it cleared on Wednesday next week!
Beej
-------------------- Beej Curtis Organic Image Cornwall UK Posts: 25 | From: Cornwall - UK | Registered: Aug 2003
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Beej, I'm very familier with Auto-Air and as a matter of fact at one time I was a dealer-disributor for Createx Auto-Air. I understand the norm for Waterbased paints compared to Water-Borne paints used in the automotive world and there certainly is a difference, lets not get confused between both of them. Createx is waterbased and Automotive paints are Water-borne. As far as catalysts and base coats for waterbased paints, remember that all paint is subject to particles flying in the air which can and will hurt you.
Maybe the Z-man could shed some more light on this subject with the difference between water-borne and water-based.
Your artwork and your website is killer.
I had to edit this 1 time and add that Createx Auto-Air is not new and has been out for quite a few years, even though they re-formulated just recently for the second time. As I said, time will tell
Thanks for the comments about my work, your pinstriping is awesome!
Well, I'm very concerned now! Here's me thinking that I was on the right track and I keep getting told that Createx is not what it seems?? It's just confusing.
At the end of the day all I want to do is put my thoughts and soul onto the surface in the easiest possible way. Should I be concerned about longevity? Good question I s'pose. Of course I would like the job to last if I expect to charge big bucks but if we're talking the age-old UV issue, are we talking weeks/months/years and are we talking Californian sun or UK sun! (which is very rare believe me!)
I feel I need more technical info from Createx and I will try and get it this week and report back.
I don't know the difference between water-borne and water-based paint either, I thought they were the same so please accept my apology, I am hungry to learn and I want to KNOW my materials, I am very serious about that.
All I do know is that Createx tell me and say in their adverts (the way I'm sure HoK did when they were only a few years old) that this paint is lightfast, permanent and DEVELOPED for Automotive painting.
What's a guy supposed to do??
PS: Here's the next bit of the tattood bike. the seat unit all freehanded, no masks.
Peace
Beej
-------------------- Beej Curtis Organic Image Cornwall UK Posts: 25 | From: Cornwall - UK | Registered: Aug 2003
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Those last pics caught my attention with regards to your technique. I see you are laying in your underpainting with a paint brush first. Are you using the Createx for that as well?
quote:Originally posted by Bevin Finlay: Those last pics caught my attention with regards to your technique. I see you are laying in your underpainting with a paint brush first. Are you using the Createx for that as well?
Hi Bevin,
yes, I am and it worked great fro what i needed it to do, basically, as you rightly said, 'underpaint' the detail
At first, I was bit nervous about doing it but somewthing inside was screamin, 'For goodness sake, just get a brush and get on with it!' and now, I'm glad I did.
I don't want to be stuck inside the technical issues and do's & dont's of airbrushing, I simply want to create some art and the brush felt right for this.
Createx is not great to brush with though, but i think they do a Detail Opaque as most of the other colors are semi-opaque, useless for filling areas or even lining! I wasn't too fussed though because I was covering it with airbrush strokes. Would have probably looked better though if had been solid.
Beej
-------------------- Beej Curtis Organic Image Cornwall UK Posts: 25 | From: Cornwall - UK | Registered: Aug 2003
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