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This is for a 10x20' sign on some rented space. The customer wants me to use coroplast like on the other signs in the same sign corridor, but they all look like "you know what" and MDO does not fit the budget. I'd like to use some 10' long material if possible, to be able to cover the area with five sheets. What do you use for a substrate that is better than Coroplast but cheaper(and faster)than MDO? I know this is sort of a basic question, but I would appreciate your answers. Thanks.
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Painted masonite might look better, but I wouldn't want it getting too wet. Also a cheaper version of Alumilite called econolite could be an alternative for you.
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Hi Lotti. There's not too many substrates that are less expensive than Coroplast. ( I detest the word cheaper). Banner paper or tyvek are the only 2 possibilities that come to mind. With either of those, you could execute this like a big window splash, and give the message some real punch.
Hope this helps.
-------------------- Ken Henry Henry & Henry Signs London, Ontario Canada (519) 439-1881 e-mail: kjmlhenry@rogers.com
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Hi Lotti, try using 10mm coro, works well for us & has much longer outdoor life than 4mm, besides being more rigid & smoother. Believe you can get 10' sheets from EM Plastics.
-------------------- Colleen Henderson Signs Now, Thunder Bay, ON signsnow@tbaytel.net Posts: 140 | From: Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada | Registered: Jun 1999
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Lotti..I use Sintra (PVC) when doing outdoor signs that are restricted by price. It costs about $35/sheet in Canada and is much stronger than coroplast. I get mine from GEPolymer Products which used to be called Cadillac Plastics.
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Thanks for all the replies! Hey Doug, check your e-mail, I sent it before I found all these posts here. Bill,I wish it was a real wall, but it goes on a patchwork of plywood sheets. Hi Ken, it doesn't have to be cheaper than Coroplast, but cheaper than Crezone, and it should last a year or so. Colleen, I'll check it out, that might be the right solution. Dave, I thought of Sintra, but they say it expands too in the heat. I am trying to avoid that bulgy look. Does it take 1Shot well? Duncan, the customer wants the full 10x20 feet covered, I don't think I'd want too work with a banner that size, it's quite a windy location too. Is it possible to give the Coroplast or Sintra room to expand by making bigger holes and hold it in place loosely with big washers, or would the wind rip it off that way? I have used Coroplast and MDO plywood on most of my signs so far, but am trying to find an alternative for both of these, since I'm not happy with it. Thanks again.
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Lotti if the area to be covered will accept sheet metal you might consider Paintlok. I can buy it here at most any sheet metal supply house for inder $20 a 4'x10' sheet. It is preprimed steel sheet metal ready to paint.It holds up well as it is basically .032 steel and once painted properly looks as good as the finish you apply.
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i think you might just be able to paint the plywood wall... if you give it a bright background color and a strong design, the uneven texture of the wall wouldn't really be a big deal. just roll on some exterior semi-gloss latex. 10' x 20' is a large area, and the money you'd spend on substrate goes into your pocket instead as labor for painting the background.
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I found a supplier today who sells 5x10' corrugated plastic sheets in 10mm thickness (about 3/8"), I will probably go with that, then I can get away with four sheets (thanks Colleen). I also tried to find that Paintlok stuff that Tim mentioned, but it's not available in Canada, I could only find unprimed .032 sheet metal at a higher price than you can get it primed.... Thanks to everybody here this basic request turned into an educational experience and some valuable new contacts. All of your suggestions were appreciated.
I've been away on our RENDEZ-VOUS QUEBEC Roadshow for the last week or you can bet that I would have piped in earlier.
ND GRAPHICS can supply you with all different thicknesses, colours, sizes and shapes of COROPLAST...many from stock.
Not unlike the brand "Aspirin", "Coroplast" gets used to describe most corrugated plastic products...which are not all created equal. The supplier suggested by Colleen doesn't carry the real deal and isn't a Letterville merchant -- so I hope you will give ND GRAPHICS a shot at this business (if you haven't already - then in the future).
"Sintra" is another brand that is used to generically describe all expanded PVC products. To my knowledge (and to their credit) Sintra was first to market and offers a very widely accepted product. The product carried by ND GRAPHICS is CELTEC - and it has some distinct advantages over the afformentioned product. Please let me know if you would like to learn more about it. I also have a really thorough "users guide" for CELTEC that addresses many of the common questions surrounding sign fabrication and installation using the product...yours for the asking to all CANADIAN letterheads.
Looking forward to seeing you again at the SK RoadShow in October!!!
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