we have been using pelucid on this one account now for about a month, We have been using a quart can.
Today we went to use the same can again, it was about a little less than half used. The top was hardened about an inch thick, Figured no big deal we'll cut the skin off and use the rest.........
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh NO. The stuff is thick like boogers, and stringy like taffy. Ahhhhhhh sh*t, this stuff aint cheap No?
So before we break into a gallon can I just have to ask, does this stuff have a shelf life or was it the air in the can that changed it kinda rapidly?
Any help will be greatly appreciated
[ August 12, 2002, 12:41 PM: Message edited by: Bob Rochon ]
-------------------- Bob Rochon Creative Signworks Millbury, MA 508-865-7330
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All I can say is that the same thing happened to me and my lid was on very tight. Had it less than a month. I would like to know also if anyone has the same problem.
-------------------- Wright Signs Wyandotte, Michigan Posts: 2787 | From: Wyandotte, MI USA | Registered: Jan 1999
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Yeap, once you open the can, Pelucid starts to cure from the moisture that is let into the can. NEVER use Pelucid directly from the can on a job by brushing and repeatedly putting the brush in and out of the can. Pour out what you need into a seperate container, clean the rim the best you can then seal it up good. I keep the remainder in the shop fridge and it keeps many months longer this way. If you have a new gallon now, I would suggest separating it into smaller jars or cans and refridgerate it. And again, pour out only enough for the job and do not pour the remainder back into the can. There are all kinds of tricks like putting holes in the rim, a screw into the bottom of the can, plastic wrap between the lid and can..... Just find out what works best for you. Personally, I only buy the pint cans and use babyfood jars for storing the smaller amounts. This method works for me. And, for safety's sake, label the containers as to what is in them!!! More about POR-15 Pelucid and other products can be learned here
[ August 12, 2002, 02:13 PM: Message edited by: John Smith ]
-------------------- John Smith Kings Bay Signs (Retired) Kissimmee, Florida Posts: 822 | From: Central Florida - The Sunshine State | Registered: Jan 2000
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John,my understanding is that POR-15 is a rust-preventative paint which isn't UV resistant while Pelucid is a top coat that IS Uv-resistant. Right? I think the do's & don'ts tip vary quite a bit for the two products. I'm sure not an expert with these coatings but Pierre or Rosemary at St. Marie Graphics in Montana can probably give us some additional information.
-------------------- Chris Elliott 1longshot@classicnet.net cell 62084two2232 Posts: 686 | From: Scottsdale, AZ & Anthony, KS, USA | Registered: Dec 1999
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bought 2 qts of Pelucid. Opened one to experiment........DUMBASS, I left the lid off only to find it the next day like 3 week old JELLO. I told myself I wouldn't tell anyone about this but, you people are like family. I'm taking Ginkgo Biloba now for MEMORY LOSS.
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All of the above. I also put it in smaller glass jars after I open the qt.. The jar I'm working out of now is about to harden. It does not last long once you open it, even if the lid is tight. Some people claim no problems with it, maybe they are in a dryer climate?
-------------------- Rob Thomas 3410 Ketcham Ct Beautiful Springs FL 34134 Posts: 965 | From: Bonita Springs, Florida USA | Registered: Feb 2000
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Bob, I'm with John Smith. After you pour the gallon into smaller containers and seal them up, turn the containers upside down for a moment to put a paint seal on the bottom of the rim. Outside air will get to the paint at the seal first and harden, really sealing up the container solid. There should be very little air/water trapped inside the container. Once that little bit is absorbed by the paint, the rest should stay fresh.
Joey is also correct that keeping the lip clean and undamaged, and sealing up the can solid should work just fine, especially on a new can. My experience was, 9 out of 10 people cannot seal up any kind of paint can. Fortunately ordinary paint skins over, alas, not so for Pelucid
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-------------------- Victor Georgiou Danville, CA , USA Posts: 1746 | From: Danville, CA , USA | Registered: Dec 1998
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I've had many half cans of Pelucid jello also. I've sealed the lid on well, turned cans upside down, stored in cool places, etc. Shelf life seems rather limited. Wouldn't it be nice if it came in half pints? At $40 per quart it gets expensiive.
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Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity. — Charles Mingus Posts: 6806 | From: Mendocino, CA. USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Rick, POR-15 Pelucid does come in half pint cans. (SRP=$13.00) But, not all the distributors carry it. Depends on your rate of usage as to what you should have on hand. Pierre may be able to special order you some or check with POR's website. Just by accident, I found a place here in Jacksonville, FL that makes fancy hotrods and custom rides. The lady there will sell me whatever I need. But, she does not sell to the general public. So, that may be an option for you is to check your nearby auto shops. I just checked the can I have in the fridge. It is a pint can, half full and was opened twice I know over 4 months ago and it shakes like water is in it. So, it is still good. But, the clock is ticking daily on that can before it sours. And, Chris, yes, the POR-15 products are NOT UV resistant. Only the Pelucid. I have badgered them for over 10 years along with hundreds of other folks about the UV problem and still they haven't done anything about it. Even today, they say they have some nice colors, BUT, they must be UV clearcoated. It has only been within the past 3 or 4 years that Pelucid has been UV stabilized. Any of you guys restoring an old car, truck, wheelbarrow, or any rusty iron object, POR-15 will saturate the rust right down to the base metal and hardens like a ROCK, but, remains somewhat flexible. And, is impervious to all fuels, acids and moisture. I restored a 1950 Chevy panel van that had over 2 gallons of POR-15 in it when it left here!!!
I do not get any kickbacks from the POR-15 folks. This is just a product that I have used for a long time and am very comfortable using it along with its quirks. A very similar product is availabe in the Antique Car Trader magazine. It is Bill Hirsch's Miracle Paint. The exact same stuff. Just costs a little more.
-------------------- John Smith Kings Bay Signs (Retired) Kissimmee, Florida Posts: 822 | From: Central Florida - The Sunshine State | Registered: Jan 2000
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John, thanks for the update on this stuff. I'm just starting some tests with Pelucid and also want to try their Glisten PC top coat for polished aluminum (if it works on polished diamond plate I'll really be a happy camper cuz that stuff's miserable to buff out).
-------------------- Chris Elliott 1longshot@classicnet.net cell 62084two2232 Posts: 686 | From: Scottsdale, AZ & Anthony, KS, USA | Registered: Dec 1999
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