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I truly believe that 1-Shots #6002 reducer was formally called Liqu-Seal back in the 70's. This stuff is great as a flow enhancer if your style is paletting instead of mixing it in the paint.
The color of #6002 is the same as Liqu-Seal, and it also gels up like Liqu-Seal did. 1-Shot dropped it from their lineup sometime in the 80's. Great stuff but was not represented correctly back then.
Whats your take?
-------------------- HotLines Joey Madden - pinstriping since 1952 'Perfection, its what I look for and what I live for'
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As a "palletter" The One Shot reducers... High Temp.and Low Temp.when MIXED together(medium Temp?) Give the same effect you are talking about 6002 I tend to use combinations for different types of work when nessasary. Often Turps and Pentatrol works well for me as binder plus flow enhancer Practiceing,experimenting,and testing is STILL the best way to find out what works at the time. Thank goodness throught out my years. It is the TIME element that has aforded sucess. Hope this helps
-------------------- PKing is Pat King The Professor of SIGNOLOGY Posts: 3113 | From: Pompano Beach, FL. USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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According to a knowledgeable supplier sales rep, who claims he heard this from someone at 1-shot, Liqua-seal IS available - it's now packaged as 1-shot fast-dry gold size. A couple of old boys I knew back in the '80s always swore by using Liqua-seal for small gilding jobs, and for mixing with black Japan for backup on glass gilding. If I recall correctly, though, the original Liqua-seal had a lead component, which is absent, according to the label, from the gold size. I could be wrong, though.
Any comment from 1-shot???????
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Cam Bortz Finest Kind Signs Pondside Iron works 256 S. Broad St. Pawcatuck, Ct. 06379 "Award winning Signs since 1988" Posts: 3051 | From: Pawcatuck,Connecticut USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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I've still got about a half dozen 1 qt. cans of Liqua-Seal (unopened)............Best stuff I ever used!!
Lasts forever as long as ya reseal the can, and breath a little of yer warm breath into the can before ya nail the top down......
And Pat's absolutly right......in today's "Gimme a Quick Answer" world......Nobody want's to try to learn things for themselves......Too easy to just hold the old hand out and get the answer.... ...Unfortunatly, some of the info ya get that way can really screw ya up.....
Personally I enjoy finding my own answers to things by experimenting, or at least putting in some effort of my own....!! Good One Pat.....!!
........cj
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Hey CJ, refresh my memory... does Liqua-Seal contain lead? I haven't seen a can of that stuff in a coon's age. I also seem to recall it came in screw top cans... no?
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Cam Bortz Finest Kind Signs Pondside Iron works 256 S. Broad St. Pawcatuck, Ct. 06379 "Award winning Signs since 1988" Posts: 3051 | From: Pawcatuck,Connecticut USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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First let me start by saying I do not think the "6002" reducer is "liqua-seal". I remember "liqua-seal" being a little thicker in consistancy. I beleive that we mixed it with varnish(& other enamels)to aid in the brushing,etc.,like "Penetrol".I do not know where 1-Shot came up with "6002", but it really SUCKS. I have several cans of the stuff, that I couldn't give away. I use it for brush cleaning. The next thing is concerning 1-Shot's "Fast Gold Size", it is NOT "liqua-seal", it came from 1-Shot's "marine" coatings division. It's a fast dry,high build up varnish used on wooden boats. I do not remember the name of the sign artist that turned us on to it, he used it for his surface gold leaf on boats(somewhere in Fla.)but I do know that almost all of us in the NJ,NY area used it for years as the best quick size, without an equal.It was sold as "Jet-Speed 100". If I seem to be going on, I apologize. It's just that I can't handle "sales?" people or "reps" that are "clueless".
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Jules, actually Liqu-Seal wasn't thick at all, but during its transition from cold to hot or vice-versa, just like #6002 it thickens and eventually turns to gel. To clean your brushes with 6002 is a joke, No? I remember when I was living in Florida in the mid 70's and 80's being turned on to Liqu-Seal by Don Ives but due to 1-Shots marketing of its product, no one knew what it was supposed to be used for and persons other then myself used it for gold size. That to me was a joke.
Since the early 90's I've been using Chromatics flow enhancer which at first was introduced as #4007 which later became ChromaFlo, and seems to be a great flow enhancer, but living in BFE, ChromaFlo is hard to get. It is the same stuff I brought with me to your first home BBQ pinhead meet, when we first met. Since Chromatics at that time was only 1 mile from my home in Stony Point addressed as Garnerville, using their products became the norm for me. Jules, you must have remembered that as Mark Klein was the one who brought me to your home. That is when Russ Mowry introduced Nelson Medina as the best straight line pinstriper in the country as I walked in and stated, I hope you're not talking about this country!
-------------------- HotLines Joey Madden - pinstriping since 1952 'Perfection, its what I look for and what I live for'
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