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David my only response can be as I stated in my post....
"We ALL have clipart we did not legitimately obtain whether we wish to admit it or not. Maybe it's some a friend lent us when we were in a jam. but we ALL have some. Let's not be so quick to "call the kettle black".
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well, i go back to the days of BBS's.....and it was the only place you could find clipart/fonts. and i still have some stuff on 5 1/4 disks....(but dont have a 5 1/4 disk reader..heheheh)for all the good it does me. as for beliving that you dont have 1 piece of clipart that you didnt buy.....if you scan a logo, then turn it into clipart...did you buy it?????? we all scan stuff and make it cutable...without purchasing it. and this guy that started the post...no one got "grumpie" with him till after his 2nd post...then he opened the doors.....anything i post i would say face to face.....
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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All I am going to say about it is that I have seen other boards go all to ?ell because of all the too cheap, too lazy, too whatever folks and especially newbies (some who don't even have a clue why most of these message boards exist! Not for trading clipart!) and I for one DON'T want to see it happen here. This is one of the last boards where every other post isn't about trading clipart. If I myself (which I have never done and I hope I don't have too) needing clip-art that I couldn't produce myself, I would e-mail one of you guys that I have gotten to know and ask for help NOT sit around waitng for it to fall in my lap. I really hate to see Letterville get clogged up with "I need a clipart of a Monkey eating a Banana while jumping through a hoop...ASAP...like yesterday" I have learned a lot from here and other boards and I beleive in charity BUT I myself have had to pay for 99.9999% of my clipart and I beleve that if we here at this board let clipart swapping get out of control, a lot of these guys would start relying on this place for most of the stuff they needed and never have to spend a dime on clipart. There are boards where that is speciffically the purpose, trading clipart..why not go there, they'd get it quicker. I found them when I first started. It wasn't very hard to find. Oh well. Now back to work.
-------------------- John Thompson JTT Graphics "The big guy with a little sign shop!" Royston/Hartwell Georgia jtt101@hotmail.com Posts: 626 | From: Royston Georgia | Registered: Feb 2002
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What a bunch of bs! u mean to tell me nobody has ever helped u out b4 David?You have a point about showing him how to do it himself,but some ppl dont know how to vectorize things.I TOTALLY agree with Stan,and Mr.Shortreed. Personally I have never been to a meet either or even paid to be a resident why?...cause why would I pay $50 to get flamed or to be made fun of.I think the snob attitude comes from people like Doug who thinks its his personal fight to track down and blast ppl for askin for clipart,relax man have a beer!Some of u guys even blast OldPaint for tryin to help out.I have been a signguy for a few years now and started out hand painting and lettering, untill i saved enough for a small 12" cutter,some will now assume i am a hobbiest because of my cutter but with a wife and 3 kids and I cant afford a big cutter like some.Pat had the right idea untill u guys made him feel like he is doing wrong.Maybe we can all learn something from the women on the board........nuff said
-------------------- "I can draw anything but unemployment" Steve Spiry Madd Artist Murals&Signs Brandon,Mb. Canada Posts: 66 | From: Brandon,Mb. Canada | Registered: Jul 2001
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Mr. Spirey...IF you have never been to a Meet, then you have not seen the real Letterhead movement in action!
At a meet, you will find all kinds of people teaching others various techniques. Whatever you need to know, there will be someone that will take the time to teach you!!!!
To me, begging for clip art is unprofessional! It is a sign of a "quickie Steickie" newbie! Don't know how to scan and vectorize....learn how! Don't have what you need...get on the net and download from some free stuuf, or go to one of the sites that will sell clip art by the piece! Oh?? can't afford to buy some clip art? Then your prices are too damned low...and you are dragging down prices in the market, thus making it harder for the real sign people! How long do you think that a carpenter would last on a job if he showed uo with just a hammer, and had to boprrow a skill saw, level, chalk line, tape measure, and all the other equipment?
The "I don't send in $50 to help support this site because I might get flamed" is the sorriest excuse that I have heard! Of couse it befits the "send me some free clip art" type!
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Please tell us one more time about your wife and kids, and their medical conditions, will you Steve Spiry? How long do we have to endure this? We all have problems but you are too self centered to see any but your own. And yes, if you don't know how to draw, vectorize, buy, invest time on your own to learn this business, then it probably is not for you. As for being like the women of this board, good advice, toughen up and act like the professionals many of them are. Finally, you keep bringing up the $50 hostage issue where you won't pay because of the way the BB is. Face it, you never will give it and always will have an excuse. There never was a contigency on my residents fee, I paid and accepted the way things are. Now that's about caring and sharing Steve. "nuff said".
-------------------- Wright Signs Wyandotte, Michigan Posts: 2785 | From: Wyandotte, MI USA | Registered: Jan 1999
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Well first of all I think I seen a guy named Si over at Beltons askin for clipart and second of all Dave don't even go there about my family, I am happy that yer family is in perfect health God bless them but mine aint and as for blastin newbies,weren't u a newbie at some point or were u just born a sign guy? Let just end this here I think what u said about my family really lets everyone know just what kinda guy u really are!!! If any newbies have any Questions but are afraid to post email me I'll help ya!!! God Bless All.......ya even u David Steve
-------------------- "I can draw anything but unemployment" Steve Spiry Madd Artist Murals&Signs Brandon,Mb. Canada Posts: 66 | From: Brandon,Mb. Canada | Registered: Jul 2001
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That guy took 3 days 3 hours and 18 minutes sitting and waiting for US to solve his dillemia. If I have a job, I will figure it out a lot sooner than that ON MY OWN! I just flipped through my $75 Art Explosion clipart book and they have no less than 29 thumbs up in vector form. If he hasen't gotten the ample cilp art collections or can't reproduce it himself than maybe he needs to rethink his situation and make adjustments to his business accordingly. I hate to have to spend money on tools, clipart, etc BUT that is part of being in business. Hell, you can write the dam? cost off your taxes. Heres a perfect example from myself. I needed to drill into brick the other day so I needed a hammer drill. I already have a perfectly good DeWalt standard cordless drill BUT needed a HammerDrill so guess what, I WENT AND BOUGHT ONE!!!!! I didn't want to BUT I HAD TO!!!!! Clipart is the same thing as a tool or a program or hell for that matter a vinyl cutter. WHEN WILL THE BEGGING STOP? And if you do beg and nobody replies, DON'T GET MAD! GET A GRIP!.....and some clipart!
Oh by the way I need some clipart of a big ol' pair of butt cheeks and a set of big ol' puckered up lips, any of you guys got it.....HA!HA!
-------------------- John Thompson JTT Graphics "The big guy with a little sign shop!" Royston/Hartwell Georgia jtt101@hotmail.com Posts: 626 | From: Royston Georgia | Registered: Feb 2002
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I don't think this post is the size that it is because we won't trade or give the guy clip art.........it's the fact that he slammed the board for not suiting his needs.
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Aw hell, just declare an "ask for freebie clip art day" where all request made between the hours of say 8 to 10 could be posted without fear of flaming. That way anyone who would choose to send it along could do so and those who chose to ignore the request could do so. The mayor could provide a radial button designating that this is a genuine poor boy request for free clipart. Acronym letters like INFCA (I Need Free ClipArt) can be used in the title line. All without fear of reproach or flaming dialog, now that would be cool(for about 2 minutes). But remember if you are outside the time period allowed for free request, you are fair game and it might take Danny Glover and Amnesty International to get everyone off your butt.
Just a funny to lighten things up as this is getting way too serious.
I never was told but when I started posting here there was a logical assumption (after looking through previous posts) that there was an obvious disliking of posting requests for clipart. So if in need I simply found other resources for it.
Once you make your own "friends" here at Letterville, you can simply ask them via personal email for help. Which most are very willing to help.
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Steve Spiry... you are also a liar! I hav never been to Belton's asking for clip art! I don't even own a plotter...MY WORK IS DONE WITH QUILLS AN BRUSHES! Look at my Chat nick!
My opinion of you has sunk to a new low! Go find another place to spread your crap!
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Oops, I missed the 3 day time lag betwen Atog's first 2 posts.I guess that makes me pretty bad at "trackin" down clipart requests. In fact being a frequent participant here, that is also a good example of how a post can settle to the bottom pretty quick & actually be missed completely by many who otherwise could have helped.
A "friendly" bump can often do the trick. On the other hand if someone is really craving attention, we've now seen how to facilitate that as well. I wonder if Atog ever had a client come back 3 days after buying a new sign & try to rip him a new a**h0le because the sign didn't bring him any new business yet?
Once on a thread not too long ago, someone suggested that to those who see an unanswered request slipping by & don't have any answer, a reply to bump it into view of others could be a courteous thing to do. I know I have done that on more then one occassion since that time. Many clipart requests have resulted in a referral, by someone here, to the exact source to buy a collection with the artwork needed. Although not free, that is better then risking a purchase sight-unseen.
Steve Spiry, I'm no saint & I call 'em like I see 'em, but I know I've lent a helping hand enough around here that I have no shame about my respectful:rude behavior ratio. When I see you gutter trolling the muck to get a reaction its usually not worth my time to respond to you, but if in a respectful dialog with our mayor you get called out for your behavior, that's your doing. Now you're calling out my actions. Fine, I can live with that.
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Last post promise! Si, my apologies but there is a guy named Si there.To all of you I'm gonna drop this right now,the bottom line here is I wanna help people when I can ,it's my nature and I dont get my shorts in a knot when people ask for somethin simple.Doug calm down, I've read some of yer posts and find u a very smart fellow.Dave,I am sorry but to say I whine about my family's medical problems????I was tryin to make a clipart disc to raise money for my son.......sorry. And I apologise to everyone for taking up so much time and space for something that people have different opinions on. But c'mon people lets try to help each other and make this a better pace where people wont feel insuperior to some of you excellent sign veterans who have so much to offer.....Now lets get on with sign stuff!!! Steve
-------------------- "I can draw anything but unemployment" Steve Spiry Madd Artist Murals&Signs Brandon,Mb. Canada Posts: 66 | From: Brandon,Mb. Canada | Registered: Jul 2001
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I may be asking for trouble here....but would it be a good idea if someone would do a tutorial on how to create your own clip art....like say with Corel or Adobe illustrator?
I for one would be interested to learn how.
I can do a line drawing of most anything, but some can't.
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Yikes... how did I get drug into this?? I haven't even been keeping up on most of the posts, only skimming thru!
Everyone that has sat here reading my posts and chat, especially 2-3 years ago, has a good idea of who I am. Does Bruce really need to 'sic' me on anyone?? Gosh... I thought I did a pretty darn good job of that all by myself, right butch ? Usually I wait til it's really worth my time. Besides, Bruce is COMPLETELY capable of dealing with people all by himself (he just needs more practice dealing with me!!)
As for flaming... heck, I like flames!! A couple people used to call me 'flame' as a nickname (hmmm, wonder why). I think Mr Lavallee's flames are awesome.
Actually, I like flames so much that I would like some on my 94 Mustang - hmmm, I don't have an outline of it - hey can someone send me one? Heck, send me some flame graphics, too, while yer at it, ok?
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-------------------- Dana Ferry St Cloud, MN Posts: 1556 | From: St Cloud, MN | Registered: May 1999
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praise ALA and pass the ammo.....will this do mike? hahahahahahahah
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I think the dog has run off with the meat and has left the jackels fighting over the scraps while he sits back on a full belly and watches the mayhem. Just my dos centavos here.
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? Usually I wait til it's really worth my time. Besides, Bruce is COMPLETELY capable of dealing with people all by himself (he just needs more practice dealing with me!!)![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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