posted July 31, 2002 06:58 PM
Don't think so Shane. Back in my fast food days at McD's any boxes (that food product arrives in) with any kind of coatings on them (to keep non-individually packed food items from sticking to the box) were not recycleable and had to be tossed into the regular trash. The non-coated boxes were broken down, baled up and recycled.
Now, you could cut down on your liner waste by re-using the liners instead of throwing them away. Bring a plastic bucket to your applications and when you remove a liner just roll it up and stick it in the bucket.
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Mike Pipes stickerpimp.com Lake Havasu, AZ mike@stickerpimp.com Posts: 8746 | From: Lake Havasu, AZ USA | Registered: Jun 2000
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posted July 31, 2002 07:51 PM
Reuse them, eh? What do you use yours for? I use the liner as a friction-free-sleeve for burnishing graphics after I apply, but I don't suppose I'd need much more than one or two pieces for that purpose.
Kindof a bummer that they don't recycle. I could cut down on a lot of trash if they did.
thanks! -shane
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posted August 01, 2002 12:26 AM
Heck, I use them for release liners for graphics - again! Say if I run a smaller job like a windshield banner, instead of wasting half the sheet of vinyl for a 40"x5" banner (cause my plotter does not handle scraps), I put a weed border around the lettering, weed it out, use a 6" wide strip of transfer tape and lift the cut vinyl off the roll leaving the other half of the vinyl for another job instead of wasting it. Then I can put that lifted vinyl onto another release liner I had layin around.
Granted, I don't have too much release liner waste since I ship virtually all my jobs out of town, but I do have some layin around that I use.
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Mike Pipes stickerpimp.com Lake Havasu, AZ mike@stickerpimp.com Posts: 8746 | From: Lake Havasu, AZ USA | Registered: Jun 2000
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posted August 01, 2002 03:02 AM
I believe all coated papers are NON recyclable, I put mine through my paper shredder that I bought second hand and use it as bedding for my dog
-------------------- Steve Broughton Alpha Grafix Signs Lowfields Road Benington, Boston Lincolnshire, England Posts: 315 | From: Boston, Lincolnshire, England | Registered: Aug 2001
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posted August 01, 2002 02:26 PM
I use 20" rolls interm. vinyl.....i save most of the long runs of liner....i turn em over and use the back with a pen in the plotter for test runs, and pounce patterns!!!!!
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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posted August 01, 2002 10:41 PM
Can't recycle it here due to the coating... so says my dumpster man.
-------------------- Jeff Vrstal Main Street Signs 157 E. Main Street Evansville, WI 53536 1-608-882-0322 Posts: 670 | From: Evansville, Wisconsin | Registered: Sep 2001
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posted August 02, 2002 01:38 AM
Recyle, hummmmmmm I think there has to be some way to recyle that paper. Mike gave a good point on reusing it. I do that too sometimes. But lets really take a "good look" at what this paper or even vinyl can be used for. I saw one post, I think it was Thompson about his garbage can filled with a ball of Vinyl. I think even Bob Parsons drew a joke about about the vinyl floating in the air. (Correct me if I'm wrong) In a useful way, what could we do with this Release Paper or Vinyl?
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posted August 02, 2002 03:11 AM
OK Cisco, I'll answer that challenge. We women know how to pinch pennies. (I'm getting testy now aren't I?)
Ever run out of wrapping paper? Release paper is much thicker than the store bought and makes a nice sharp crease at the corners.
Got children, grandchildren? They love to be given a thick piece of paper for artwork. Joe mentioned running it through the plotter with the pen. I never thought about using it for pouncing, but have made banners for the kids to paint or use marks a lots. Let them make place mats for a special dinner.
Give them scrap vinyl to make a collage. They can even line their dresser drawers with a collage. Show them how to roll it in small peices and make a mosaic. The older ones love to use an exacto to make their own art to put on mugs, clipboards and even spiral notebooks.
Inflatabe toys and pool floats can be repaired with vinyl. Makes "purty" electrical tape. I've been meaning to put some reflective on my rakes, hoe shovel, etc. That way I can easily spot them at the boy's houses then say "EXCUSE ME" southern style and then go into a rant about returning my things!
If you get a big enough ball of scrap maybe you can kick it around the shop instead of sweeping.
-------------------- Kathy Joiner River Road Graphics 41628 River Road Ponchatoula, La.70454
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posted August 03, 2002 02:21 PM
Kathy, A few months ago I had some digital prints made, 22" tall by around the same width. I needed three and ordered a fourth just incase something went wrong. I did the job and intended to put the extra away, but left it in my truck. That day my son and his friends took my truck surfing and Jake decided to rip a section off this bird to patch his torn wetsuit. I knew nothing of this two days later when the customer phoned because the edges were lifting on one of his window prints.
We usually use release liner to warm our shop by placing it in the wood stove with one hand and igniting it with the other.
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posted August 04, 2002 06:53 AM
I use the liner to cover my work table when i am going to paint a sign or glue something up. Makes for an easy cleanup.
Diane Balch
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posted August 04, 2002 09:35 AM
I do like OP and flip it over and pen plot it. Really good for when you are cutting funky stripes for a rig and want to make sure that they look right before putting knife to vinyl.
You can cut it up for on the spot airbrush mask too.
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posted August 04, 2002 10:42 AM
I think we should pose the seemingly unlimited possibilities of this subject to Martha Stewart !!!
-------------------- John Smith Kings Bay Signs (Retired) Kissimmee, Florida Posts: 822 | From: Central Florida - The Sunshine State | Registered: Jan 2000
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posted August 04, 2002 11:32 AM
I keep some of my liner paper for stacking aluminum signs. There was a post on here a while back about some vinyl sticking to the aluminum sign stacked on top of it (for storage till installed). I place the liner sheet in between the signs and no problems.
-------------------- Tony Broussard Graphic Details Digital Media Loreauville, LA Posts: 395 | From: Loreauville, LA | Registered: Jul 1999
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posted August 04, 2002 11:57 AM
This is what my Dad told me. Line, or Carrier, is made with a clay content, so it's not recycleable. It also is made with a very thin silicone type layer, so if you transfer appliques from another source to the surface of a used carrier, given a bit of time, it will bond itself to the adhesive of the applique and not want to release. I know that's true because I did it with some very large multi-color appliques last year and, after 3 weeks of storage, lost them all.
posted August 04, 2002 12:39 PM
I just throw em out! let the EPA figure it out there the ones who feel i'm better off without lead in my paint, So the way to go is vinyl which creates in my shop 400% more waste.
Sorry to be the village bunghole but I dont make the rules, just try to abide by them
EPA hahahahaha what a joke..........
-------------------- Bob Rochon Creative Signworks Millbury, MA 508-865-7330
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Seriously, we use some of the liner for wrapping stuff, tansfering graphics when we don't feel like wasting the whole piece, pounce patterns, and... hmmmmmmmmmm... just what you guys are all doing.
Yes, I will agree that sign people will put Martha Stewart to shame when it comes to ingenious use for the mundane items laying around the shop.
Well, got to get back to painting the garage.
Have a great one!
-------------------- Bruce Bowers
DrCAS Custom Lettering and Design Saint Cloud, Minnesota
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posted August 04, 2002 01:19 PM
Maybe we should send our releas liners to Marth Stewart when she's locked up in prison along with the CEO's. Then she'd have an abundance of paper for origami.
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Say if I run a smaller job like a windshield banner, instead of wasting half the sheet of vinyl for a 40"x5" banner (cause my plotter does not handle scraps), I put a weed border around the lettering, weed it out, use a 6" wide strip of transfer tape and lift the cut vinyl off the roll leaving the other half of the vinyl for another job instead of wasting it. Then I can put that lifted vinyl onto another release liner I had layin around.![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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I think we should pose the seemingly unlimited possibilities of this subject to Martha Stewart !!!
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