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I'm curious, I got asked to bid on a couple of dairy towers. They are of a cylander type fashion and the logos encompass a 10 foot by 30 foot area...100 feet in the air. The bucket truck will be provided, I would like some advice on pricing this. I skidded into town after some one else got to bid on it, so if I want the job, I gotta scurry with it. I would like to give them an answer by 3pm EST today, as opposed to waiting till monday, if I could.
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Hey Linda, how you gonna keep all of the flys from gettin' stuck in the paint? Ha!Ha! I ain't got a clue about pricing that one but being a Georgia boy, I sure do know 'bout these darn flys and farms. Every race car I do has at least one fly carcass stuck in the paint and It alwas seems to be right where I have to put something.....Dadgummit!
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Ha ha ha John! It's so high up, I doubt folks on the ground will see it. It seems this will be visible from the expressway so I'm not really sweatin the bug factor, LOL. I've never been that high up before, though.
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I guess I picked the wrong business myself caues I am SCARED of heights. I cannnot stand ladders but I do what I have to do. Most of the times though If the sign is way up, I'll figure a little extra in on the initial quote and then when I give it to them, I say "now if you install the sign yourself, I'll knock $? off" it works 95% of the time and I dont't loose any money. That won't work for you though since you do murals. I guess I am just lazy or just plain sorry one. (edited after tims post below) I have also been thinking about it, 100 ft. is pretty dadgum high even in a bucket truck. I know I couldn't or wouldn't do it unless I had time in doing stuff like that before. My brother in law owns a company that does siding on high up buildings and it is really hard for him to get help cause it seems easy 'till you really get up high and look down then you get the shakes and that ain't good. If you do decide to do it, BE CAREFUL! & also BE REALLY CAREFUL!!!!!!
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Linda, if you've never worked that high maybe you ought to consider farming this one out to a pro who has experience at this sort of thing, to be on the safe and practical side. If you get the job charge tha bejeezuz out of them Linda. $10 a sq ft is not out of reason for this type of job. Before ya go that high on a lift I suggest you get some formal hands on instruction from a licensed crane operator. Learn your hand signals too,...nuthin makes one more mad than to be beyond earshot of someone trying to convey instructions who doesn't know them.Wear a safety harness. Assume if a mishap does occur that probably the local saftey personel may not have experience at these heights and may not be prepared to assist in the event of an emergency,take nothing for granted.One last note,...I would find a way to go up that high before I took on the job as I've seen some very strong willed persons loose control and their nerve at heights less than you mention. Sewing machine knees is not pleasant but is a normal human reaction, some react stronger than others so you'll have to find out for yourself. Life is too short to take for granted and certain jobs aren't worth the risks involved even if the potential pay is astronomical.
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That's $6,000 OR I can take what lands behind bucket truck number one...hmmmmm.
I did take it as a personal challenge years ago to go up in a bucket truck just to see if I could do it without, you know, losin my lunch. I did okay after the first few seconds, kinda accepted that fact I wasn't falling...the panic subsided but I was greatly relieved to return to the ground.
Usually, on a wall (ladder) I get in the zone and it doesn't bother me, but wow, 100 feet. The only time my knees are akimbo, are when I've been on my arches for endless hours at a time on ladder rungs and it's time to jump down, turn around and let go of the paint for a minute.
The out of earshot part ya mentioned, kinda puts it into perspective for me.
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Linda....there is a HUGE difference in 20 feet up and 100 feet up in the air! I gotta go with Timi...if you haven't done work that high up...take a pass on it or sub it out!
At that height, your every little move makes the bucket wobble and shake! Does that bucket truck have topside controls, or are you at the mercy of some guy on the ground? AND if it has topside controls....do you really know how to handle them?
If you do decide to take this job....don't forget to take a hammer with ya!
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Linda, I would strongly take Timi's advice, having done a big job like that with P-King in Birmingham is not as easy it it may seem (and we did it without a safety harness YIKES!). but then again I'm not sure if you can handle those type of heights. Or hire out someone like P-King or Timi. I myself am not to crazy about bucket trucks at that height, you feel like you're at the end of a fishing pole everytime it moves. I like a boom lift better, two people fit in much easier. Plus if you have to pounce patterns you can move the boom while the other person pounces or vice a versus. But I could be wrong maybe you have nerves of steel and are a bungie jumper, high rock climber, or a sky diver. Then excuse me for my suggestions. Either way bid it high! You will always run into unexpected events. Be careful, make the money.
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I've been there too ... it ain't fun! Especially on curved silos. Real bitch to position the bucket. And that is if you are in control, let alone trying to convey instructions to somebody on the ground!
$10 sq ft is cool but I would add $1 per foot above ground per hour!!!! Yer going to walk away from that job rich or dead! As Si says ... take a hammer hahahahahhaaha
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I'm opting not to do it. Call me a chicken, but at least I'm not a dead chicken hehehe. I left a message with these guys about the bucket truck.
I asked:
Is the bucket stretched out at 100 feet or was it made to go 120 feet?
Is the bucket just big enough to squeeze my delicate frame into or is it one of those 8 foot wide deals?
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Yes, it's a top control gig...lotta good that does if I don't know how to operate it, should I panic and have to rely on my lack of skills.
I love going fishing but, I never wanted to be on the far end of the pole.
The "out of earshot" dynamic makes it pretty hard to snuggle up to the idea.
Thanks for all the input fellas. I really appreciate your concern for me!
Oh! Cisco, I definitely am not the perfect woman you described in the last portion of your reply! Ha ha ha. Please, don't worry about offending some one when warning them about sompn this dangerous!
[ June 29, 2002, 02:35 PM: Message edited by: Linda Silver Eagle ]
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Yeah I beleive that would be the last thing anybody here at this board would want to see posted is that the Silver Eagle couldn't fly. Have a gudin'.
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