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I'm painting some copy on an aluminum faced sign since I couldn't match the color in vinyl. Any tips on using (Arlon) paint mask? I'm using an oil based enamel(Benjamin Moore Impervo)
I've heard you should pull it off before the paint dries fully. I also heard of people using a clear first, but I tried this and found it worked better without it...
Thanks in advance!
-------------------- Alan Dearborn Dearborn Graphics Hampton, NH USA Posts: 271 | From: NH USA | Registered: Mar 2000
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First of all Alan I wouldn't use normal enamel but instead opt for sign and lettering enamel.The coverage of the opaque pigments and uv resistance is going to save you alot of work and possible mishaps.My personal experience with the type paints you propose to use is that they are formulated at the onset to take multiple coats for proper coverage.This is a problem if you intend to use masks as the mask needs to be removed while still tacky for optimum results.
-------------------- fly low...timi/NC is, Tim Barrow Barrow Art Signs Winston-Salem,NC Posts: 2224 | From: Winston-Salem,NC,USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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i've been using Avery paint mask, but i'm pretty sure its the same as the Arlon. I've learned to pretty much remove the mask as soon as i've finished rolling on the paint. i've used 1-Shot and a roller mostly, because its fast. what you want to avoid is building up paint in the edges of the mask. i'm not sure how quickly a house paint will set up, so you might want to do a practice strip. the mask material itself is very nice, lays flat, and i've never had a problem with paint creeping under when used on a smooth surface (i've used it for glass and metal).
-------------------- :: Scooter Marriner :: :: Coyote Signs :: :: Oakland, CA :: :: still a beginner :: :: Posts: 1356 | From: Oakland (and San Francisco) | Registered: Mar 2001
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I'm not familiar with the mask,but I saw that you use house oil paints. I have just switched from urethane paints to the 1-Shot Lettering enamels. Alan, what a difference!!! Trust me , switch over. They flow excellent and cover great. One coat is usually enough. Also, if you're painting over a mask, I'll pull the mask off about a half hour after I have applied the paint. I haven't had any problems of the paint lifting with the mask.
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I don't mean to throw a wrench into the werks here...but...are you paiting onto "raw" aluminum or painted?
If it's raw and you expect it to stay on for very long I suggest you use a coat of Mathews 2 part zinc chromate primer sprayed on before you put on your lettering enamel...it dries in 15 minutes and you can paint right over it.
"Werks fer me it'll werk fer you".
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Thanks for all the advice! I was in somewhat of a rush and am not familiar with how to mix the exact color I needed in 1-Shot, and wasn't able to get the 1-shot in house in time for working over the weekend anyways; so I just got the paint premixed.
I didn't have any problem with the paint seeping under the mask when I removed it about 20 minutes after painting. I did sand a little before painting to give some grip for the paint.
I'll post pictures when I get a chance.
Thanks again!
-------------------- Alan Dearborn Dearborn Graphics Hampton, NH USA Posts: 271 | From: NH USA | Registered: Mar 2000
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A little late here, but wondered if painting the vinyl, then running through the plotter would be an advantage. I've done both ways, but if it's small copy one advantage in plotting painted vinyl is normal weeding, instead of reverse weeding on wet paint.
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Doug, Thanks for the input! I've painted vinyl before to match pms colors(using 1-shot or automotive paints), but always have trouble getting a really smooth, uniform coat of paint. I've put a primer of ti-coat or FrogJuice but the paint seems to dry very quickly when painting on the vinyl and so it's hard to get the nice finish. Also, have had problems with the paint lifting when removing transfer paper at install.
-------------------- Alan Dearborn Dearborn Graphics Hampton, NH USA Posts: 271 | From: NH USA | Registered: Mar 2000
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