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Hi Shawn, I wasn't questionig your benefits or ethics -- my comments were directed to the whole list of postings (including yours and everybody's). if you read through them, they come across as a pretty grumpy lot. the only thing i'll challenge you with is to rephrase your original question from "why is it hard to find good help?" to "how do i find and keep good help?"
(lets face it, "why is it hard" is easy -- you're competing with every other employer for the "good" help. why is it hard to find good clients, good suppliers, and good phone rates? its hard, because it takes work).
as for the rest of it, with benefits like that, if you aren't able to attract and keep good employees, then maybe it isn't the money. maybe you could ask some friends to come over and get a different perspective -- ask them "would you want to work here? why or why not? what would make this a better place to work? what would make me a better person to work for?
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This is a little off, but here I go. Why are the kids lazy? Pass by your local high school and check out the parking lot. Notice all the bright new shiny sports cars? The boy turns 16 and good old dad buys him a car, and keep in mind that the insurance on a lot of these vehicles for 16 & 17 yr. olds is higher than the car note. Well, the poor kid is in school, plays football and just doesn't have time for a job after school. (truly he doesn't high school football is very demanding nowadays) So... dad gives him a credit card for gas and dates. Prom, homecoming and such dad rents him a limo to take his girl out, pays for dinner at a restaurant that he & mom can only afford on their anniversary.
Now the kid graduates. He is sleeping till 10:00 AM and out half the night. Dad is getting tired of the kid sleeping late while he rises early and works his butt off to support the kid's luxurious lifestyle. So he throws a fit and sends the kid off to work. The poor boy doesn't know which end of a screwdriver to hold because dad was on the golf course every Sat. & Sun.
Whose fault is this? OUR GENERATION!! Buy me a little red Mustang convertable, give me a credit card and you will find the laziest old gal in the south!!
I taught my boys to work for their priviledges, just as I was raised, and so did most of you. That's the difference.
-------------------- Kathy Joiner River Road Graphics 41628 River Road Ponchatoula, La.70454
Old enough to know better...Too young to resist. Posts: 1891 | From: Ponchatoula, LA | Registered: Nov 2000
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I think Beth made a good point, especially concerning the "market" here in Middle Tennessee.
I live in the town in which Beth runs her shop. There's probably half a dozen storefront shops in town and at least that many "home" shops. The pay structure there for subordinate help is why I'm forced to travel the 40 miles daily into Nashville. Its simply a matter of economics for me.
I too want a knowledgeable and skilled employee, but the average employer here just will not pay a living wage. They generally have the mindset that they had rather roll over 10 low dollar "kids" this year than to pay just one enough money to live on.
I remember used to be that if a person showed up for a job interview with the proper skills AND was married, with kids, a car payment and a house payment...that he was an ideal candidate because he really needed to work. Not quite like that anymore.
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