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I have Copperplate Gothic Bold (a SignWizard font)and Copperplate Gothic Bold (True Type) of which the former has a noticeably heavier stroke. Could someone point me in the right direction as to where to find another version of Copperplate Gothic Bold which is between those two in line value?
I am also looking for a slightly bolder Helvetica Medium. There is a lot of difference between my Helvetica Medium and Helvetica Bold. I need something in between.
I've searched through all of the fonts in Sign Wizard, CorelDraw, Clickart, and Windows to no avail. I'm trying to match typestyles to an existing sandblasted sign.
-------------------- Wayne Webb Webb Signworks Chipley, FL 850.638.9329 wayne@webbsignworks.com Posts: 7405 | From: Chipley,Florida,United States | Registered: Oct 1999
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I would take the lighter of the two, convert to curves, correct the kerning and slighlty outline the letter to match the weight of the others. Keep outlining until it matches.
Just a thought...
Have a great one!
-------------------- Bruce Bowers
DrCAS Custom Lettering and Design Saint Cloud, Minnesota
"Things work out best for the people who make the best of the way things work out." - Art Linkletter Posts: 6464 | From: Saint Cloud, Minnesota | Registered: Jun 1999
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One thing I have found will work--at least in Signlab 5-- take a line of copy in whatever letterstyle where the weight of the letters is too bold, space 'em a little wide, then do an outline, but assign a negative value to the line width. What this does is put the "outline" inside the letter edges. You end up with "skinnier" letters, and you can remove what amounts to the old outer edge. Then you can re-kern to your satisfaction.
You can also do what Bruce suggested with lightweight letters by adding a positive value outline. In SL5 though, it seems you have to assign the same color to each, and then weld. I guess the colors being the same puts them on the same layer, because Signlab says you can't weld objects on different layers.
Hope this is of some help.
-------------------- Bill Preston Fly Creek, N.Y. USA Posts: 943 | From: Fly Creek, N.Y. USA | Registered: Jan 2000
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Most programs will allow you to use a bold version of the font,...I know for instance in corel there is a "B" and an "i" on the task bar of the newer text properties bar that allows you to use these heavier versions of the same font if they are available.
-------------------- fly low...timi/NC is, Tim Barrow Barrow Art Signs Winston-Salem,NC Posts: 2224 | From: Winston-Salem,NC,USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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there is a heavy version and a bold version of copperplate, also there is quite a bit of weights available for helvetica or swiss check through this site for a few of them ftp font site
-------------------- Ken McTague, Concept Signs 57 Bridge St. (route 107) Salem MA 01970 1-978-745-5800 conceptsign@yahoo.com http://www.pinheadlounge.com/CaptainKen
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"A wise man once said that, or was it a wise guy?" Posts: 2425 | From: Salem, MA | Registered: Apr 1999
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Michael, I found that the TTF in Corel matched the Copperplate best but..... When I stretched the whole line of text into proportion, I found that many of the letters within it were out of proportion to each other. For example: the "M" was exactly propportional to the one on the sign but the "D next to it was condensed.
It would take too long to rebuild it letter by letter (although I could do it).......I'm just gonna use the font.
-------------------- Wayne Webb Webb Signworks Chipley, FL 850.638.9329 wayne@webbsignworks.com Posts: 7405 | From: Chipley,Florida,United States | Registered: Oct 1999
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Here's how I do it...and you'll have to figure out the interpretation from Illustratorese, which shouldn't be too hard to do.
Take a lighter version than you need, select, copy and paste directly under it a second copy. On the bottom copy, place an outline and adjust to your taste. Once you get it to look like what you're lookin for, covert that bottom copies' outline to an outline path and weld both the top and bottom copies. If you want to retain the ability to adjust the kerning, then all you do is weld the letters one at a time, instead of the whole word at once.
Also, when you create the outline on that bottom copy, you have the option of rounded corners or not. If you want a softer look to the letters, choose the round option in the stroke palette.
And don't forget, since you are putting a stroke on a letter underneath your original letter, the stroke will need to be double the thickness of what you are aiming for..since half the stroke is covered by the top letter.
The reason that I do it this way instead of just putting a stroke on the letter and adjusting, is that that will distort the integrity of the letter.
Sorry for the foreign language, but I know Corel, as well as alot of other drawing programs have similar abilities...ya just have to look around sometimes to find the equivelent.
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