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OP I didn't want to break Cam's post on Working on Sundays, but I gotta know what does then menu for that Veggie group of Pensacola look like for a barbaque? Does anyone bring a grill at all?
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hahahahahaha...we had GRILLED hotdogs, burgers, baked beans, potato salad, chips and dips....the dogs and burgers were of the veggie type, and more restaurants are serving these burgers...dennys has em ruby tuesdays also. i also took my "fish cooker"(bottle gas burner, gets 160,000 B.T.U.'S)and i have ground groves into the cook top to hold my wok ring(round stand the wok sits on since the wok has a round bottom)and i cooked a FABULOUS BUDDA'S DELITE(this is in most chinese restaurants and is nothing more then a veggie only stir-fry)and i toped it off with marinated TOFU...not to brag...but it was one of my BEST!!!!!! the bok-choy and green onions got cooked 1st, then the halfed baby carrots, and as i cook i add some soy sauce to each veggie. then i did the red & green peppers and green onions just to the point of them crunching when you bite em but cooked all the way thru. had a nice zuke that i picked from the garden and had it cut up and cooked it next....not so done it was mush, but it had body when you bite into it. next was the broccoli, now this is a tasty veggie if cooked right. put it in the wok with a little veggie oil and let it heat, then add some water and cover for 5 min, then stir a couple times, when it turns a brilliant green, its done. cruchy but cooked,and is the best and full of flavor. mushrooms cooked same way as brocolli and retains the shrom flavor. then did the water chestnuts and bamboo shoots. tofu was cooked last...combine all vegies in one big bowl, have a pot of jasmine rice seasoned with sesame seed, cooked, put rice on plate, put on some fried chile and garlic hot sauce(sparingly) top with veggies and ENJOY!!!!!!
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Mmmmmmm sounds.....well, different. Do you eat chicken or fish...or mainly follage? Have you always been a vegetarian? If not, was it high cholesterol that forced you to change? Just curious....tell me to mind-my-own business if that's too personal.
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damn nosy for a die hard conservative!!!!!!!!!!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. dont mind at all, need more people to go this route. iam considered a LACTO-OVO vegitarian, meaning i do dairy products(dont kill the cow to make em) and eggs(dont kill the chicken,for you pro-lifers iam NOT, believe life starts at 1st breath). will do seafood once in a while, wife works for a family with CAJUN roots, and if you never had seafood gumbo, or a crawfish boil, cajun stlye, your in for treat. cholestrol was over 300 so i did the cut back on the beef and pork & poultry. didnt make a diff in 6 mos...was still above 300. wife took a cruise with her sisters...and she read DIET FOR A NEW AMERICA and being on cruise ship they have round the clock "food binges". she got home and said " i quit eating meat," and i said no problem and this was 13 years ago. with in 60 days from stopping eating any fleshes...also didnt do any eggs and very little cheese(sprinkle cheese on pasta basicly)cholestorol went from over 300 down to 160 and i could feel the differance. also i was getting a lot of joint pain, due to age and i found out that all fleshes contain hugh amounts of URIC ACID, and when you injest lage amount of meat the uric acid tend to collect in the soft cartilidge of your joints, thus drying them out and this will make it painful to move. i had quit smoking about 2-3 prior to this. had 3 heart attacks at 42 from smokin 3 packs a day since i was 10-12 years old. so yes...iam concerened with my health. this is mostly why i do this. also we started doing TIA CHI(7-8 years ago)(classes with an instructor who studied it in china for 7 years. without a good instructor...you may as well not take the classes. also do chi gong....sorta a tia chi movement done in repetition. i also dont like doctors, do herbal, homeopathic and chinese medicine. you axed!!!!
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Very interesting OP. I was just curious (nosy). I have a neighbor who used to hunt and eat meat...and then he found out he had real high cholesterol...so he quit eating meat, joined PETA, and is now a radical anti-hunter type....
I've noticed some people quit eating foods for health reasons...but don't develop radicalized views regarding meat and animals...while others become almost obsessed with completely eradicating a lifestyle they once embraced.
It sounds like you are a much healthier person though, and I give you credit for the willpower to giving up the "goodies" which contributed to your high cholesterol and heart attacks.
While I would disagree with many of your views on controversial social topics...I give you the thumbs up and hope you remain healthy and happy. Have a good one OP.
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well ted nugent is not high on the list of people i like...and i also shoot bow, but only at targets......i have a chinese long bow....
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I've been a veggie for 18 years and find it's a good way to be !!. I feel fit at the age of 52 and am sure that my eating habits have a lot to do with that.
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I'm about convinced, except I can't find any veggie boudin around here. You're right about the Tai Chai. I read a book and tried to practice the moves. It really didn't work out. The book was written in spanish, though, so I read another english this time and tried the moves, no good same results.
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brian, glad to meet you as a fellow letterhead and vegitarian. i agree with you that becoming a vegitarian has helped emensly in my well being. i have a brother in law who is an educated man, with cholestrol off the scope. he takes the pills, but told me flat out one day "ill die before i quit eating meat," and i looked at him and said yep die you will!!!!!hahahahahah. iam 57 and have been been meat free for the last 13 years. once in a while ill eat out and some one will screw up and order, like at the mexican place i eat at....i order their "vegie plate" rice, beans, cheese enchilada and chaloupa. i cut into the enchi and take a bite and its got beef in it...YUK PHEW! and the taste it leaves in your mouth....ordered a veggie omlette in denney's one day, the cook puts ham in it!!!!!! saw t before i ate it. placees with self serve salad bars......once in a while a piece of chicken will get into the cottage cheese....NASTY TASTE!!!!
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Beef leaves a bad taste in your mouth?? Hahha. I dunno OP, the only way I can eat a salad is if it is doctored up with lots of cheese, bacon bits, dressing, and ham or turkey.....
otherwise, the greens are about as pleasing to the palette as chewing on a cardboard box.
If I had to do something on account of my cholesterol....I'd cut back on the fatty foods and rely on that and excercise to lower it. I don't know what Thai Chi is, but if it's one of those goofy Oriental mind cults....I would stay away from that.
Nothin' like a big fat juicy cheeseburger with all the fixin's.
I look at it like this: If you put a juicy steak and a salad in front of a Lion, he's naturally gonna go for the steak. Such it is with certain mammals.
God said meat and fish and the like are good...and that's good enough for me. It all comes down to moderation I believe.
If all you ate were steaks...you'd be missing out on the benefits of veggies, and visa-versa.
I just wish I had more opportunity to hunt and fish for my food.
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hehehehehehe todd...i dont need to say any more...you exemplify the "typical" dogmatic approach to anything that you cant conceive in your closed minded state. and TIA CHI might be something that would help you...if you knew what it was.....
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WEll, the goofy oriental mind thing is atually a very effective form of exercise martial art developed by the Chinese.... Its proven effective and is such that even old people can take part.
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Oh, ok I think I heard of it now....I had a kid tell me once that he saw an old guy stand on his finger...i'm not kidding...no hands and no feet...his finger!
That would be awesome. I thought you were talking about some kind of meditation thingy. Stupid me.
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Tai Chi is what happens when I walk into a dusty room. It feels great when it happens, but ya gotta be careful not to spray someone when ya do it.
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todd you musta been thinkin tia chi was FALONG GONG....the chinese govt is cracking down on it in china.....and its a extremly highthened state of tia chi.....
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Hey Old Paint - id'nd that why the good Lord gave us molars? So's us good 'ol boys can chaw down on a piece of meat? just wondering........ hey lookin foword to passin thru your way in 'bout 2 1/2 weeks.......gonna git me some good ol Appalachicola oysters.....down in Sunnyside, Florida...........Carl
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guess I pop in here on this one, I had the great pleasure to meet Mr Old Paint back in '98 over in Pensacola, FL He and his wife took me out to eat at Hannins (I hope I have the name right been some time now) I am not a vegitarian but sad to say I had never eaten ToFu up till that time we went to eat at this place. I will say I did like it, I thought it was a delicious meal! Plus they had Alaskan King Crab Legs, and a whole bunch of other foods that wasn't Veggie type, so I ate like a champ! That was pretty cool of Old Paint and his wife Hennie, thanks again Joe for the introduction to Veggie food.
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cisco...ive since been eating at a mexican place every tueday....rice, beans, cheese enchlaida and a chalupa.....then i will have a chile releno or cheese and onion casidea.....also we like the extra hot salsa......such a good flavor....also another mexican place i did signs for food(this is how good their food is)...they make the best veggie fajhitas....and casideas...
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dave....you also prove the point of a mind is like a parachute....only work when its open....and you probably belive all that rush tells you, and that geo w is really runnin the show! lets see talking about violence: to get the meat you eat, SOMETHING HAS TO DIE. have you ever been to slaughter house? lot of violent people there!!!! start with the guy who smacks the cow in the head with a 10 lb. sledgehammer(he loves his job)if he misses, oh well its only a COW! smack it again. when they kill pigs, this is done with a long rod, and the pigs are run into a wooden stall with wet floor, the guy stands over the pig and has to NAIL, yes on the end of the rod is a sharp point like a nail, and its hooked to 220v!!! these guys are real havery milktoasts...huh? do they get enough B-12? next guy in line has to hook up the back legs of the animal, he slits the skin above the hoof and runs a rod thru each slited leg, hooks that bar to a crane(and some of these animal arent completely dead, compasonate guy he is). then the crane lifts the animal, goes down the line to the GUTTING FLOOR, this guy likes his job too...has a very sharp knife, and slits the throat of the animal to drain the blood, works real good(and this blood is collected and saved to be used in cooking process of dog food as a congeling agent to hold the dog food together)then the next guy does the disembowlment. cuts the animal from between the back legs to the chest, and as gravity has it, all the internal organs fall out!!! oh and some time he cuts to deep and cuts the stomach open and then the acids in the stomach(digesting only vegtables, right, these are vegitarians also)get all over the inside of the carcass(not good as it will "taint" the meat with a bitter flavor). then this carcass moves down the line to the skining area, cows get skin removed and is later used in the leather industy. pigs have to have the hair removed..so they are dunked into a vat of boiling water(softens the hair, just like when you shave)and then are "scraped" of the hair. need i go on? as for b-12 i get plenty with out EATING SOMETHING THAT MET A VIOLENT DEATH(eating something that died violently creats violent behaviour in the person who ingests it). i drink milk, eat cheese and eggs. speaking personally, right now i feel sympathy & compassion toward you, when i ate meat, i would come up there a beat you a**!!!! see what me being a vegitarian has done.......hahahahahahahahah
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Joe, your chain is so easy to yank. Who is this Rush person you are talking about? Quivering in Michigan, your bud, Dave "What' s your "Beef" anyways?
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Actually Joe...pigs are not vegetarians...They will kill and eat anything that is not big enough to fight back or fast enough to get away...Including small children!!!
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pigs in captivite are ...and those that are wild will ATTACK humans....but not for a food source....pigs are teratorial and vicious i know personally, my grandfather who gre up in russia, as a young boy was feeding the pigs and an old bore attacked him and bit him on the face...needless to say it left a hell of a scar and the pig was the 1st one put up for winter meat!!!! dave, just figured you guys...meat eater and chain yankers,hehehehehehehhe......needed to see the other side of the coin....MR. peacable here....havent killed any one since i quit eatin meat.....hahahahahahahaha so you can stop quiverin......
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Joe..I ain't yankin yer chain!!! It is true...Pigs born in captivity and raised in captivity WILL and DO attack and eat any living thing that is small or defenseless. Shirl grew up on a farm and watched many cats and chickens get eaten by piggies! LOL
She, herself, was climbing the beams in the barn over the pig sty and slipped and fell into the sty. The pigs DID try to attack her but she was too fast and climbed over the pen and was OK.
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I can't believe you eat plantLIFE. Plants have feelings too you know. It has been proven that plants and flowers react possitively to certain kinds of music. They have sexual organs and reproduce as do mammals.
Yet you take hoe in hand and mercilessly hack and sever the "undesirable" plantlife out of your garden, leaving it there to dry under the scorching Florida sun. All the while, yanking and separating what you consider edible from it's food source (the earth) and lifelines (the vines).
You then toss it onto a blistering pan of dancing-hot oil, and ultimately devour it....at which point you produce bad breath and belch with satisfaction.
At least in a slaughterhouse...the deed is over with instantly. I know, because I've been to one and watched the process. They don't use sledgehammers (at least not in the last 20 years). The have a .22 caliber wand that they tap on the cows' forehead. This tap sets off the charge driving a floating metal rod into their forehead knocking them unconscious. They immediately hoist the animal and slit it's throat. They don't know what hit them and are dead within seconds. Cows are a great food source. They provide milk and meat and leather....a very diverse natural resource.
Have you ever stepped on a spider? Swatted a fly? Slapped dead a mosquitto? Hmmmmm....that's killing a living thing is it not? Relatively defenseless living things in comparison to humans.
And if you knew that a scorpian was crawling up and ready to strike a defenseless baby would you squish it or figure that every living thing deserves to do what comes natural and let nature take it's course?
The problem with PETA types is that they are usually very selectively hypocritical.
Meat is good for you...protein, and lots of essential body building elements.
Ok. Well that's my self serving opinion. Now I'm gonna go grill some all beef franks...and maybe I'll eat a salad too....hey...if you're gonna be an accessory to murder..you might as well do it on both ends of the food chain.
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todd...glad to see your.."thinking,"if you were at the time you wrote that, you wouldnt have posted it!!!! think about lifespans...plant produces fruit/veggie,if not ate it ROTS!!! then plant dies,I DONT KILL IT but eat what it produced. cows/pig/poultry/fish, if left to nature will live a lot more years, have you ever been to a VEAL FARM? thats almost as sick as wackin baby seals in the head! meat is good for you , i dont disagree, but the stuff you buy today...is poisoned with so much stuff.... ....si most of those guys are as old as you and me.....
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Mmmmmm....I'd say most plants don't die quite as one might think....Many plants produce seeds either as a part of the flower or a part of the fruit. If not picked, they do dry up...but the seed either flys through the air and reseeds itself, thus propogating itself...or the fruit drops on the ground, and the seed within the fruit would reseed itself....
So, I can't totally go with your thinking on this. I have a Norway Maple tree in my yard that is in the process of "dying". The tree guy came over to take a look at it and guess what? He said, "your tree is dying, and it's under stress...I can tell because it is producing seedling all over the place."
You see, many trees will, under stress begin producing seeds knowing that if the tree dies, it is defensively repopulating it's species.
One of God's wonders of nature.
You probably know about veal more than I...I've never been to a veal plant.
Also, I have no problem with Eskimos or people indigenous to those arctic areas whacking baby seals and harvesting them for food, oil, skins or whatever else they do with them. It's a centuries old way of life....I imagine if we lived where they do, we would find a way to live too.
Same with the Indians and the buffalo....
I'm still in shock thinking about the images of you going through your garden with hoe in hand and a multi-bladed lawnmower....hacking the life out of plantLIFE. (you know I'm just kidding...hehehe)
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It doesn't really matter what you eat - we are all going to die in the end, anyway! I eat what I like, plain and simple. I can make a meal out of a salad, or scoff up a cheeseburger with equal enthusiasm. I don't have any problem with people who choose a totally vegetarian lifestyle. If it works for you, enjoy it. What I do have a problem with is the attempts of groups such as PETA to enforce their lifestyle on others. Have you guys seen the "Meat is Murder" bumperstickers? How about the "Ronald McDonald is as evil as Joe Camel?" Don't doubt it - if these people had their way, it would be illegal to eat a Quarter Pounder. Couldn't possibly happen, right? Remember twenty-five years ago, when the anti-smoking thing began building, - did you ever think it would be illegal to smoke on an airplane, in a bar or resturant? I quit smoking myself over ten years ago, but these people make me want to walk into PETA's home office with a Big Mac in one hand and a Marlboro in the other, grind to butt out in someone's eye, and stuff the burger down some other veggie-munching new-age Nazis' throat!!! (Gee, did that sound bitter????)
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Joe your an ol pennsylvania boy wouldn't you love to cover that rabbit food with some good ole pennsylvania hot bacon salad dressing, I definetly don't have a problem with vegetarians telling me hunting is a barbaric sport and should be outlawed my problem is with people who eat meat and complain,just because they don't have the guts to kill and clean their own food if you kill it grill it, and only take a shot at an animal if it will kill them instantly.The deer heard in pennsylvania is always over populated. They sure are some beautiful animals. They taste good too.P.S not into trophy hunting at all or hunting shows on tnn just to sell hunting clothes & scopes don't like those hunting camps either or hunting deer with dogs, never would hunt over bait.
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ben..where do you think all of those violent overtones come from? the meat you eat....PLEASE KEEP EATING MEAT, it will kill you....and the sooner the better...heheheheheheh to much linbaugh in your life....and i dont try to change peoples HABITS, i worked in drug rehab for a few years, and know old DRUG HABITS are hard to change. scott, yep iam a good old PENNA farm boy. we had deer season all year round(200 acre farm, bordered by other 200 acre farms, so we had over a 1000 acres to hunt and never leave home or buy a license!!! find a deer in the corn, it went in the freezer. yep i hunted from age 7 till 30. i ran a muskrat trap line at 7-10, traped em, skinned em(boy do they stink).had my 1st .22 at 9 and shot, cleaned, skinned rabbits, squrilles, groung hog,fox, pheasent, quail, grouse.so killin FOOD has never been a problem for me, and not to brag, but iam a damn good shot. only thing ever discussed me was COON HUNTIN, if you been you know what iam talkin bout. and the deer huntin here is not right, most hunt from tree stands, were they placed a feeder earlier...and also use dogs..... fishin was the same with me, bass, trout,ive done the allegany mountains, tinesta/tidiout...fishin. also we used to catch big catfish(before eating catfish was popular)and river carp(use to catch em and sell em to the black folk, they ate em. also had guys used to go around to the creeks and walk the banks....find turtle holes, and reach in there and grab those big SNAPPERS by the tail(most of the time, guys had a few fingers missin)and drag em out and sell the meat! so its not like ive never killed my food. my problem with MEAT is not the eating of it..its what they put in it before you eat it!!!!!!!!
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OP, if I die with a Big Mac in one hand and a Whopper in the other, I will die happy! OK, seriously, you ain't kidding about the crap they put in food. My wife and one of my sons have alot of food allergies, so it has been a topic of discussion around here for the past few years. I hate to give a plug for a person I don't care for, but his product is a good one - up north of you, past Cantonment, is a guy named George White, who runs Hayman Farm, near the Alabama line. He uses an organic feed program to raise beef cattle, and you can buy direct from him. Great beef, and probably the least likely to be "poisoned" that you will find. I doubt if George White is still alive, but perhaps his family is still in business. If Randy Manger is still down there in P-cola (Ranger Graphics Screenprinting), he might know if that farm is still in operation. My info is about 10-12 years old.
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Now I'm gonna go grill some all beef franks...and maybe I'll eat a salad too....hey...if you're gonna be an accessory to murder..you might as well do it on both ends of the food chain.
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