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Here's a rap song for us signmakers...HA!HA!HA!
~I make signs & I can Rap.... I guess all the One-Shot's makin' me dream up this crap.
~Whether it be vinyl, paint or wood.. I'll make you a sign and it'll look good
~Real-Estate sign, or a post and panel. Coroplas, AlumaCorr or Aluminum with Baked Enamel
~This song is dedicated to us sign-makers... Better off doing this than being a bunch of Bakers.
~Now I gotta go, I got a truck to letter.... Maybe if I practice enough I'll be able to sing like Eddie Vetter....
I know, I know, I just couldn't resist. Life is just too short not to.
-------------------- John Thompson JTT Graphics "The big guy with a little sign shop!" Royston/Hartwell Georgia jtt101@hotmail.com Posts: 626 | From: Royston Georgia | Registered: Feb 2002
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This week it is Watermark, Rebecca St. James, Susan Ashton, Third Day, Rhonda Gunn, along with a host of others on a CD I made...
On the way to and from Boone's house, it was Tarney/Spencer Band, Peter Gabriel, Bad Co., Rush, The Partland Bros., The Box, and a bunch of mostly 80's and early 90's music.
I like a bunch of music... my collection is very eclectic...
Terry W... you better watch your speed...
Yes, George... "Thunderstruck" may just be the most kick ass song of all time.
Have a great one!
-------------------- Bruce Bowers
DrCAS Custom Lettering and Design Saint Cloud, Minnesota
"Things work out best for the people who make the best of the way things work out." - Art Linkletter Posts: 6464 | From: Saint Cloud, Minnesota | Registered: Jun 1999
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If given 1 ... Black Sabbath (with Ozzy although I liked Dio and Gillian versions)
MIKE I have to take exception to Faith no More's version of War Pigs being better ... I would put the Epic album in my top ten of all time ... but... BIG BUT
Grew up with Rush, Priest, Maiden, Metallica (lost intrest after black album), AC/DC etc. and still enjoy the hell out of them but like alot of the newer stuff too like Static X, Coal Chamber, etc. (they heavy stuff) A drummer with a machine gun kick makes a world of difference to me.
Like to mellow out to Soul Coughing, Moby, Tool and the classics ... SRV, Jimmy (Angel was my wedding song) Blues are cool. Hate the crap my kids torture me with.
-------------------- Compulsive, Neurotic, Anti-social and Paranoid ... but basically Happy Posts: 2677 | From: Rochester, NY, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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I guess if I had to pick a favorite, it would have to be the Beatles. But, honestly, I listen to everything.......I see and hear it all as just music........from Iggy Pop to Hank Williams....Jimi Hendrix to Bill Monroe. I've seen many types of acts and enjoyed them all.....the Young Rascals...Savoy Brown....10 Years After.....Fleetwood Mac w/Jeremy Spencer and Peter Green........Traffic....Vanilla Fudge...Buddy Rich Big Band.......Ralph Stanley and the Clinch Mtn. Boys......Boone Creek w/ Ricky Skaggs.......Weather Report.....Brecker Brothers.........Johnny Winter........Hank Williams Jr........Tom Scott & the LA Express....Dave Van Ronk......Leo Kotke....Poco......the Turtles w/ Flo & Eddie.......Frank Zappa w/ Flo & Eddie......Chick Corea.........John Hammond.......Commander Cody & his Lost Planet Airmen..........the Pogues......Dropkick Murphys........NRBQ......Emilou Harris......Jethro Tull.......Kinks.......George Harrison........I suppose I should stop now. But you get the picture. Oh, I forgot one.......... Joe Rees!
-------------------- Mike"Spud"Kelly zipperhead design Westminster, MA Posts: 367 | From: Westminster, MA | Registered: Mar 2001
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Joy of Cooking, Hot Tuna, Jonathan Edwards(Nova Scotia guy),David Wilcox
For Pre Ride ramp up... Hissy Fit and ZEKE,"I Pinstriped the Dutchman's Coffin" LOUD
John /Signrider/Big Top Graphics
-------------------- John Lennig / Big Top Sign Arts 5668 Ewart Street, Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada bigtopya@hotmail.com 604.451.0006 Posts: 2184 | From: Burnaby, British Columbia,Canada | Registered: Nov 2001
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I'm either fickle or moody, because my favorite artists keep changing. But my favorite group remains the Eagles. Don't tell me it's maw maw stuf because the almost 14 yr. old grand-daughter just got their greatest hits CD this past Saturday and is about to wear it out!
-------------------- Kathy Joiner River Road Graphics 41628 River Road Ponchatoula, La.70454
Old enough to know better...Too young to resist. Posts: 1891 | From: Ponchatoula, LA | Registered: Nov 2000
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My favorite all time band would have to Rush and then The Beatles. Then there's dada, Steely Dan, Chick Corea's Elektric Band (with Weckl & Pattitucci), Living Colour. A lot of different bands. I'm pretty open to most stuff except Rap and the crap that's out today. I guess it's a sign of getting old.
-------------------- Rick Mason Rick's SIGNS & DESIGNS Red Lion, Pennsylvania Posts: 6 | From: Red Lion, Pennsylvania USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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I like a large variety... no rap, eurodance music, though...
Perkins does have a good taste for music,,,
Tragically Hip are hard to beat for any background work music... plus the new band Puddle of Mudd...
Had to run out and get the cd for O brother, where art though... when i was younger.. was in a small blue grass band called... Teddy Hickey & the boys...
-------------------- Del Badry philmdesign Sylvan Lake, Alberta Posts: 636 | From: Sylvan Lake, Alberta | Registered: Nov 1998
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Lynyrd Skynyrd...........One More From the Road - -Best guitarist - rock - Ted Nugent - might sound corny - but; best band live - toss up - Blue Oyster Cult or KISS; Rolling Stones are up there - Keith & the boys are still rockin - best chick singer - LeAnn Rimes - she can howl - (one time I held her hand while she sang to me - "Unchained Melody" - ) right before she got real famous - hey Dan A. - RUSH rules also - partied on the bus wid them boys one time - Geddy Lee helped bandage my friends finger after an accident - hence, how we got on the bus - but that's another story......Carl
-------------------- Carl Wood Olive Branch, Ms Posts: 1392 | From: Olive Branch,MS USA | Registered: Nov 1999
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I was painting the den a couple days ago and this is what I had blaring outta the stereo: Fleetwood Mac - The Dance Tom Petty - Greatest Hits Kenny Wayne Shepherd - Trouble Is The Best of Santana Sting - Brand New Day Steve Winwood - Back in the High Life
I also really like Eric Clapton, Bonnie Raitt, Buddy Guy, Allman Brothers, Phil Keaggy, Robert Palmer, Spiro Gyra, John Anderson, Dixie Chicks, Al Jarreau... a little bit of everything.
After packing up all the cd's we have between the two of us - makes me wonder if there is anything we don't have!
-------------------- Dana Ferry St Cloud, MN Posts: 1556 | From: St Cloud, MN | Registered: May 1999
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Well… Let me stand up and be the first to say that Rap (The correct term is Hip Hop) is one of my favorite categories of music. Artist like - A Tribe Called Quest, De La Soul, BDP, Gang Star, and many others have made music (Yes music) that has influenced not only American music, but also American culture at large. The constant criticism of this music (Yes Music) I feel is caused by its foreign nature. The music that comes from the inner cities is based on experiences that most people can’t relate to. Therefore it’s sound is as foreign as music from China, or any other foreign country. Remember it was not that long ago that the same type of criticism was leveled against a form of music now wildly accepted…Rock & Roll! I’m sure Little Richard and Chuck Berry were accused of not making “music” but look what happened. Sorry to be so serious.
-------------------- Alex Burenstine IMAGEINK SIGNS & GRAPHICS Richmond CA Posts: 12 | From: Richmond, California | Registered: Dec 2001
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Your right Alex, I can't relate at all to what the rappers "sing" about, rape, hatred, murder, cop killing, total disrespect towards women and on and on. I live in a totally different world. Yes it's definately had an influence on the nation as a whole, just not one to be proud of. I raised my son along with three step children. Luckily or unfortunately only the youngest girl fell victim to this crap and the mind set that goes along with it. She turned into one of the "thugs" that get so glorified in your style of "music" I made more trips to juvenile court than I car to count on, the cops got to know me on a first name basis. Sorry but don't get me going about the influence this CRAP has had on American culture..."peace and love" it ain't
Yes, I'm old enought to remember the reaction to rock and roll as being "evil" and how we all laughed. But I don't remember Little Richard or Chuck Berry killing any of their contemporaries either
-------------------- George Perkins Millington,TN. goatwell@bigriver.net
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Ah, being a child of the punk era the first record I bought was "white riot" by The Clash it was one of those funny black round things, hmmm what were they called? ah! yes! vinyl! now its, Toploader, Manic Street Preachers, Blur, The Wonder Stuff, David Grey, A, Nickelback, Puddle of Mudd, Pink only because she's fit (english slang for attractive) Green Day, Papa Roach, Gordon Haskell, i don't like british dance music by people like Fat Boy Slim and R&B does nothing for me and like most folks here rap or hip hop leaves me cold, I find it laughable, the baseball cap backwards generation singing about how tough they are. Ha Ha get a life!
-------------------- Steve Broughton Alpha Grafix Signs Lowfields Road Benington, Boston Lincolnshire, England Posts: 315 | From: Boston, Lincolnshire, England | Registered: Aug 2001
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Rap or Hip Hop music didn't introduce ANY of those themes into modern music, they've ALWAYS been there. Check out some of the Delta Blues artists from the 1920's and 30's, like Robert Johnson (who wrote the song "Crossroads") as well as Leadbelly, Blind Willie and many others.. This music is RAW, they sing and play about anything because like Hip Hop, it's played from the heart and it's all from experience. Today's music is VERY TAME in comparison regarding the subject matter and language.
Besides that, not all Hip-Hop artists sing about that sorta stuff. Just like all the classic rock music and heavy metal that DOES contain that subject matter, but you never hear it on the radio.
-------------------- "If I share all my wisdom I won't have any left for myself."
Mike Pipes stickerpimp.com Lake Havasu, AZ mike@stickerpimp.com Posts: 8746 | From: Lake Havasu, AZ USA | Registered: Jun 2000
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Nice try Mike, but unfortunately I ain't buying it. I've got a real bad habit when it comes to listening to music, I'm into lyrics, I listen to the words and there is no need to turn me on to Delta Blues either hell, the crossroad on HWY 61 is only about 80 miles from here. I've heard Robert Johnson recordings and heard a lot of his contempraries befoe they passed....I've also heard Triple Six Mafia. ........No comparison, the early blues guys were indeed raw and they sang about life and it's hardships...they didn't however spread hate or disrespect. I NEVER heard any early guys sing disrepectful about women. Tell me you haven't heard rappers do that! I used to listen to my stepdaughter sing ? rap songs that put women down. I'd always aske her if she knew what she was singing?.....brain dead and mindless...I guess. I also know that not all rappers sing about hate and their stuff is just lame and tame but the crap I'm talking about is way past raw....there is abosolutely NO RESPECT for anything ...not even life itself. I listen to a wide variety of music, NOTHING not even all forms of music combined talks about killing with tha callousnous or casualness like rap!!!!!!!!! Maybe that's OK with you, but it sure and hell isn't with me, the lack of respect is unreal, the last damn thing I want to hear at a stop light is some cd blaring from a car next to me screaming about some bitch ho gonna get f****ed up!!!!!!!!
-------------------- George Perkins Millington,TN. goatwell@bigriver.net
"I started out with nothing and still have most of it left"
It's only music to her, the lyrics dont have any meaning to her, she's just listening to the beat. It doesnt mean she's stupid or doesnt realize what's being said.. it means she's smart enough to ignore it and listen to the beat. Kinda like you have to do with Eminem.. LISTEN to the lyrics and you will understand he's making fun of Gangster Rappers.. To quote Eminem "It's just words and a mic"
As far as the old blues goes, I'll have to dig into my collection and I'll either post the lyrics or post an audio clip, because I remember some devils raping some women in a couple of those songs... and I remember it happening "Down at the Crossroads"
-------------------- "If I share all my wisdom I won't have any left for myself."
Mike Pipes stickerpimp.com Lake Havasu, AZ mike@stickerpimp.com Posts: 8746 | From: Lake Havasu, AZ USA | Registered: Jun 2000
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As a non-professional musician (not into it for a year or so, too busy) who knows how much effort it takes to master an instrument, what makes me mad about the modern era of music is that most of the best musicians in the world can walk up the street and not even be recognized and they don't make 1/1000th of the money that the thugs do. Ie: Bela Fleck & The Fleck Tones, Dream Theater, as far as Blues goes, one of the all time greats, he may even be dead now Buddy Guy, one of Eric Claptons heroes. And the list goes on and on and on. I have seen Clapton, Ozzy, Rush and a bunch of good bands and enjoed every minute of it. Never had an inkling to see a Rap concert though, figured I'd get mugged or something. I play guitar, sort of a neo-classical/blues/heavy metal kinda thing and also use a lot of computer generated music from a killer program called ACID similar to what the Chemical Brothers use. My nephew came up to me last year and wanted me to teach him how to play the guitar. I tried to teach him the basic penatatonic minor scale and a couple of chords so he could get started. He didn't want to learn anyhing like that he said, he just wanted to learn how to play like Korn, they don't use scales man so why should he learn any.
-------------------- John Thompson JTT Graphics "The big guy with a little sign shop!" Royston/Hartwell Georgia jtt101@hotmail.com Posts: 626 | From: Royston Georgia | Registered: Feb 2002
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George, how can you possibly feel that your stepdaughter fell victim to rap music?! You sound like an angry father looking for an excuse for his kid’s bad behavior. You say that raps influence is not one to be proud of. There are many…many…Bad influences on children in music, movies, and television. I think you choose rap as your target because of the frustration you feel towards your stepdaughter. To condemn the whole group reeks of bigotry. As for your memories of the early Rock & Roll era… There’s PLENTY to be ashamed of: Segregation, Exploitation, Exclusion, and artistic theft are just a few… “Peace And Love” It Wasn’t
-------------------- Alex Burenstine IMAGEINK SIGNS & GRAPHICS Richmond CA Posts: 12 | From: Richmond, California | Registered: Dec 2001
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Richard, Steely Dans nonsense lyrics was one of my points. BUT it does go show that people are listening to the lyrics and not just the beat...and they are unforgetable...which is one reason they embed themselves in our memories and infiltrate out thoughts.
Don't think kids are "listening" to the lyrics? Yeah, right.
And exactly what the heck does this mean?
"No I'm Never gonna do it without the fez on."
-------------------- Mike Duncan Lettercraft Signs Posts: 1328 | From: Centreville, VA | Registered: Oct 2000
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The best I can do is a top ten (or twenty, or thirty......) Here goes, in no particular order; Bob Seager Springsteen (Am I the only person in the world who thinks "Nebraska" was his best album?) Clapton CREEDANCE (Deliberatly in caps!) Waylon Jennings AC/DC Eagles Stones Tom Petty John Mellencamp Jimmy Buffett (Wasted ten years of MY life trying to live up to HIS image! Damn, it was fun!) Buddy Holly Roy Orbison Charlie Daniels Band Garth Brooks George Jones
O.K., this is just impossible!
My two cents worth on rap - not my thing, never was never will be, but the early days of rap had alot going on; humor, street-smart intellect, and insight. Will Smith, Tone Loc, and the Sugar Hill Gang are three that stand out as actually having some lyrics worth hearing. Somewhere along the way, the genre got taken over by idiots, a@#holes, and criminals.
-------------------- Ben Sherr Street Metal Custom Auto Art 3006 River Rd Hopewell, Va 23860 (804)452-1540 Bjay65@msn.com Posts: 77 | From: Hopewell, Virginia | Registered: Mar 2002
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Well if I have to be branded a bigot because I can't stand something so full of hate, violence and disrepect for life itself...so be it! I guess I made a poor choice of words when I said my stepdaughter feel victem to this crap...she fell vitem to the lifestlye , the music is just part of it. maybe you guys listen to a differnt type of rap...around here it's some vicious stuff. Alex, you're right I am mad, the reason I single out rap is I have heard so damn much of the sickening ****,maybe there are movies that are in the same theme but I've never seen them. I've listened to a lot of music in my day, NOTHING promotes violence and killing like that stuff NOTHING. She started her decline around the same time she switched from alternative to rap, coincidence? There is definately a connection, I don't think thugs listen to Shania. Mike, you're wrong , she listens to the words and lives by them, she's been locked up, been beaten up by guys, been busted for selling drugs, car theft and assault, three of her friends have been shot and killed, many are in prison. And I don't live in a bad neighborhood either. The inner city way of life came on CD. I've seen the lifestyle up close, it's dispicable, the music glorifies it, that in itself is sick! To be able to ride around with all that talk , oh excuse me, singing about shooting and killing BLARING for all to hear and then turn on the news to hear of yet another eight year old dying from some thug's stray bullet, and this is OK?????????????? What , don't listen to the words????? Please don't try to tell me it's harmless and there is no connection. Am I ****ed? You bet!!!!!!!!
-------------------- George Perkins Millington,TN. goatwell@bigriver.net
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Hey Alex - I think you oughta listen to what George is trying to tell ya - I grew up close to where he is now - If you think that stuff don't have a negative influence on society - visit North Memphis - used to be a nice place to live - not anymore. Oh, don't get me started - sounds like you've been brainwashed by the Liberal, Politically correct media to me; but what do I know - you're probably still just a kid..........
-------------------- Carl Wood Olive Branch, Ms Posts: 1392 | From: Olive Branch,MS USA | Registered: Nov 1999
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Roger, The "Frogman" is a hometown hero of mine, Westbanker too! I cut my teeth on New Orleans R & B. Those who put Rap in the R & B catagory must have been "pulling it" a little too long.
The gangster cRap theme is just the convienient excuse used by some criminals to express their anti-social unacceptable behavior. If you don't think they get caught up in "living it", check their "RAP SHEETS."
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George, so are you going to blame the music for your stepdaughter's behavior, or are you going to find the real cause?
Music is just a convenient excuse. If music made the man, I'da been locked up in prison a long time ago with the morbid and violent stuff I listen to on a regular basis. The more violent, sick, twisted, morbid and explicit, the better! BUT I have the sense to know what's wrong or right, something my parents (ding ding ding) taught me!
-------------------- "If I share all my wisdom I won't have any left for myself."
Mike Pipes stickerpimp.com Lake Havasu, AZ mike@stickerpimp.com Posts: 8746 | From: Lake Havasu, AZ USA | Registered: Jun 2000
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George, Let me start of by saying that I in no way meant to accuse you of anything. I, like you have very strong feelings on the subject of rap music. I here what your saying and understand some of your anger. Carl says I’m brainwashed or still just a kid! Well I’m not brainwashed and I’ll be 40 next month. I am a proud voting liberal democrat that feels diversity is this country’s greatest asset. I do not agree with all the messages in rap music. Nor do I agree with the demonic messages in some Rock music, which many say have influenced young people to commit mass murder. For a rap record to be successful it must sell outside of he inner city. In fact, suburban and rural listeners are the largest group of fans rap music has. This has caused much distress among parents and politicians alike. Much like the 1950’s when kids had the Pat Boone record on top, and the Fat’s Domino record underneath. The question that these parents should ask is; what is your fascination with the ugly underside of the inner city? I for one do not feel they are simply victims. They are looking for something… what… and why? Give them some credit, perhaps they see through the “ Leave It To Beaver” false image of America and are drawn to gangster rap as a way of rejecting it. But let’s be clear on one point… It’s these kids that fuel the sales of “gangster rap” and there desire for it, will ultimately determine weather it continues to be made or not. If you tell a rapper that he or she should not make music that could harm kids. You must also take a look at all the elements of popular culture that influence kids NOT JUST RAP MUSIC!
-------------------- Alex Burenstine IMAGEINK SIGNS & GRAPHICS Richmond CA Posts: 12 | From: Richmond, California | Registered: Dec 2001
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OK, my final post on the matter. I know it looks like I'm trying to put the blame somewhere, I'll elaborate a little on my frustrations. I have very strong ideas on child raising, unfortunately my late wife didn't share those feelings. She turned into a full blown alcoholic/pill popper/pot head that drank herself into the grave at age 45. Myself, I was as big a dope head as there was, when I became a single parent I quit all that crap. If my son was going to pick it up, it sure as hell wasn't going to be from me. My wife on the other hand ,was from the do as I say not as I do mentality. If it was up to me there would have been no rap played in the house EVER. Nobody is going to convince me it didn't play some part in this young lady's downfall. I watched it happen!!!!!!!
On a more postive note, I have my life back, what there is of it My son moved back in with me, my eldest stepdaughter has a wonderful life and two great little boys and a good head on her shoulder, my stepson is doing just fine too. The youngest, well I gave it my best, she made her bed and can do whatever she pleases. I warned her not to waste the "one phone call" one me though.
-------------------- George Perkins Millington,TN. goatwell@bigriver.net
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Ok heres my take on the cRAP(call it hiphop if you wish) thing.....
I was subjected to listening to one of the bigger cRAP stations out of NYC from about July thru october of this past year. What did I learn from all of that annoying cRAP?
Well I learned that the specific radio station I was subjected to for 10 hours a day, was perpetuating the terrible race relations of the sixties. Most of the songs I heard had lines referring to "Kill whitie" and "Fu$k the system". I found this stuff VERY offensive. God forbid if a predominately white artist or group were to say anything about the black people it would bring out Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and all their cohorts.
Well what eventually happened was one Sunday while visiting the local art supply store, I went next door to the Best Buys store and bought myself a boom box, broguth it to work the next day and turned it on at my work station at a respectable volume so that I could hear it but nobody else in the shop could hear it unless they were trying to. Well wouldnt you know it, the guy witht he cRAP music felt it was his god given birthright to turn the voume on his radio much higher, Hmmm. then when I walked over to another part of the shop to do some work he turned my radio off (how could he even hear it?) I went back turned it back on and asked him to lower the volume on his. Did he? NO. Instead he tried to give me a cheapa$$ excuse that he was there first and that he had the right to have his radio at any volume he felt acceptable to him and that I shouldnt have my radio. Needless to say I told him that he should lower his radio out of respect to others. His answer was lets go outside and fight over it. Of course I said to him that this argument wasnt going any further and that I would let the powers that be deal with it. Needless to say the guy was fired by the end of the week.
What am I trying to say here?? Im not sure anymore, but one thing that I have noticed about todays youth is this....
"They all want something for nothing, and they all refuse to want to work and blame all their problems on the system." My personal belief is that theyre blaming the wrong people and so are we in most cases.
Look at how your allowed to discipline your children today versus the days before we had a thing called DYFUS. Touch your child today in an attempt to discipline them and you stand a chance of going to jail. What did we create here?
When I was growing up if i did something wrong I had to consider the consequences. My father was 6'4" and 250# built like a linebacker. When that man hit me the first time I got the message loud and clear. I steered myself straight and have tried to stay that way ever since. If I ever said a bad word I knew I was in BIG trouble. I listen to some of the parents of these bad kids and just by the foul language they use I can tell their children are trouble.
So who are we to blame for this? In my opinion SOCIETY. and yes I think that it can be fixed. First we must agree that the music itself isnt the cause of it but that maybe we should spend more time listening to what our kids hear and maybe give them some leeway just like our parents did even if they didnt like the stuff we did.
what really needs to be done is we need to become better parents. Two of societys largest problems are Divorce and Dual Income Families. I know its not easy, but if there ever appeared to be a breakdown in family life it began with divorce, but this can be overcome if both parents agree to be a part of the childs life and participate in their lives. It doesnt mean that both parents have to agree on anything except to be parents of their child. then and only then will a child feel like their significant enough to listen to what the parents have to say. I think the rest of this topic can be figured out on your own.....
BTW for the record I have no children of my own but have dated more than 5 women who have children and have seen that the divorced families where both parents participate in the childs life have great children and have also seen it where only one parent participates in their life its turned into a nightmare, not to say it cant work, but we as parents need to try to make it work FOR the kids. Otherwise maybe as people you should have considered abstinance instead of making babies.
Gawd did I ramble.
I hope at least someone got something out of all this mumble jumble
-------------------- Harris Kohen K-Man Pinstriping and Graphix Trenton, NJ "Showing the world that even I can strategically place the pigment where its got to go." Posts: 1739 | From: Trenton, NJ, USA | Registered: Jun 2001
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I hope there’re no hard feelings George…. And I don’t want you to think I’m defending any of the despicable stuff that’s out there. Sadly it sells, and for reasons unknown kids like it! Rap started out as a way for street kids to challenge each other through verbal give and take. It lost its way when a few thugs started making records full of shocking lyrics and made a lot of money. No longer did you have to be creative with rhyme and rhythm. Now all you had to do was talk about guns, violence, drugs etc. I blame the record companies for flooding the market with this S#$%T and giving Hip Hop a bad name. Believe me when I say…. There are many rap artists that are “True To The Street” that do not glorify the gangster lifestyle, and even condemn it as a gimmick to make money. Many rappers talk about the pitfalls of violence, drugs and crime in their music. They don’t get the exposure they should. My son tells me gangster rap not as popular with kids in his age group (15). He thinks it’s because there’re too many rappers claiming to be gangsters, and kids are getting sick of it. One can only hope this trend continues.
-------------------- Alex Burenstine IMAGEINK SIGNS & GRAPHICS Richmond CA Posts: 12 | From: Richmond, California | Registered: Dec 2001
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I think you hit the nail on the head Harris. It's the parent's job to steer their kids in the right direction and then just hope it works. Unfortunately, like George found out the hard way, we have little control over the external influences taking their toll.
My husband and I are the parents of a well-behaved 5 year old girl. She's well-behaved because she has no choice. We don't let her control us or run around like a nut when she's in public. She has gone to fancy restaurants from the time she was 6 weeks old. She knows that you use your "restaurant voice" and are quiet and polite.
Last month, we had some co-workers and their children over for her 5th birthday party. I have never seen such ill-behaved monsters in my life. These are the children of executives. I couldn't believe how they acted. By the time they left, they had written on the walls of her room, ripped the door off of her playhouse, broken many of her toys and terrorized my dog. Would have served them right if she had bitten them. My daughter came to me in tears - she wanted to be sure that I knew that she knew better than to behave like that.
The bottom line is that their parents just sat there, sipping their drinks, not paying the slightest bit of attention. My husband and I were blown away. It's not the kids that are ill-behaved, it's the parents. They didn't care enough to put their foot down and discipline their children.
Guess it was my turn to ramble but you touched on a really sore subject for me. Like I like to say - I was a victim of good upbringing. :-)
-------------------- Kimberly Zanetti Purcell www.amethystProductivity.com Folsom, CA email: Kimberly@AmethystProductivity.com
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Harris, You should call that radio station and speak to the program manager and give him a peace of your mind!!! Don’t be surprised if he’s wearing a suit and lives in the suburbs…
The answers are out there… It takes courage to read between the lines…
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Oops...almost forgot the point of the post.. BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN. You can take the girl outta Jersey but you can't take the Jersey outta the girl.
-------------------- Kimberly Zanetti Purcell www.amethystProductivity.com Folsom, CA email: Kimberly@AmethystProductivity.com
“Organizing is what you do before you do something, so that when you do it, it is not all mixed up.” AA Milne Posts: 3723 | From: Folsom, CA | Registered: Dec 2001
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My son moved back in with me, my eldest stepdaughter has a wonderful life and two great little boys and a good head on her shoulder, my stepson is doing just fine too. The youngest, well I gave it my best, she made her bed and can do whatever she pleases. I warned her not to waste the "one phone call" one me though.
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