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Too new at the 1-shot gig to help but it seems I heard here one time that someone actually sold a book with 1-shot recipes. If so, speak up. I just might buy one.
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I've got many formulated colors made from the original 10 or 12. Making some colors is not always the correct thing to do because the colors used aren't always going to give great coverage as an end result. I always add droplets of either shading black or 101L for that purpose.
When using 193L, its always best to add white for coverage, 193L are metallics suspended in clear and have a tendency of falling behind when pulling a brush stroke. Same goes when making a lime green, using 142L and 132L and either substituting or adding 130L will add to coverage, and lets not forget 101L
Most all my formulars are what I call toners, that is by adding white, black or the main color, I am able to match a vehicle for a complimentry color look rather then a contrast. Although 1-Shot has a full spectrum of colors, its not always wise to use each one of them alone. I look at 155L as more a toner and the same goes for 153L and 143L. 1-Shots 162L can certainly be discarded in favor of a mixture of 155L and 163L.
Hope this helps
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joey...put them all together.....and sell them here for $20....you gave me the lime green formula and i made $2000 with it.....you can put all the fomulas together in a PDF format on your web site and is only downloadable when a release number is typed in after the buyer give you $20 ........retirement money??????
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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For lime green, I prefer primrose yellow with a little process green and a drop of white. It's a little softer and works really nice with the magenta's , blues and purples. I believe that one came in a round about fashion from Joey
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these aren't secret, but it might be helpful to people who don't know --
you can call or email Tom Yates (or his assistant Erinn) at 1-Shot and get their "suggested" mixes for most of the Pantone Match System (PMS) colors. i get a fair amount of work from graphic designers who spec color that way, and Tom has always been able to help me out. (just allow a day or two for a response).
-------------------- :: Scooter Marriner :: :: Coyote Signs :: :: Oakland, CA :: :: still a beginner :: :: Posts: 1356 | From: Oakland (and San Francisco) | Registered: Mar 2001
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They keep adding new ones but havent done 'flesh' yet, I make it with Ivory, orange and maroon you could do it with yellow brown and white
I like bright orange: chrome yellow and magenta or Slime green: chrome yellow and brilliant blue or "lipstick" magenta, white and a drop or 2 of orange
-------------------- Ken McTague, Concept Signs 57 Bridge St. (route 107) Salem MA 01970 1-978-745-5800 conceptsign@yahoo.com http://www.pinheadlounge.com/CaptainKen
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"A wise man once said that, or was it a wise guy?" Posts: 2425 | From: Salem, MA | Registered: Apr 1999
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I have one of those PMS mix from lettering enamel books. Very handy thing to have. Even if the PMS# you want isn't there, at least it steers you in the right direction...
some of my favorite mixes...
50/50 Red equal parts Fire red and Bright red.
Magenta and Process Blue make a nice mix of lavender.
Teal is Process Blue and Emerald Green mixed together.
Chrome Yellow mixed with black makes a real nice olive green.
I gor more but I am going to work on the 20 bucks for the formula thing. No... I can make that list available for $15... I can beat Joey's price... Need to save up for a motor home...
Have a great one!
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I have the COLORTONES Color Selector & Formula Guide. It's a color matching system for bullentin and lettering enamels. This is the second edition 1994. Seems like I bought it from an ad I saw in Signcraft. You can match the color samples to a PMS chart then mix up lettering enamel to match. Good luck, Judy
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i got a can of "flesh"....it started out as salmon color, mixed in some white to lighten then added chrome yellow for brightness...dont remember the quantities....just kept mixin till i hit it!!!!
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For a warm, rich "old gold" that can be adjusted light to dark, start with lemon yellow, and add purple by the drop til you get the tone you like. Much nicer than imitation gold, which has a greenish tone.
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There was a "book" concerning "One-Shot" color mixing. It was out about 10 years ago I think.It had formulas to create PMS colors(as close as possible) used in printing, using "One-Shot" I believe it sold for about $50 or $60. Don't know who put it out,but I would try "One-Shot"or "Sign Craft",maybe they could help. PS, I wish I would have bought one.
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1-shot has finaly listened and added KC TEAL a Dave Hightower color of pro green/problue/white, And my favorite Proper purple. They also have Flesh&Chamios.all they need now is a good Rubine to tint with. I've been bugging them to come out with an artist tint package of Warm&Cool Reds, Yellows &Blues to mix with .
-------------------- Alan Johnson Alan Johnson Grafix Blairstown, NJ 07825 [URL=http://www.alanjohnsongrafix.com] Posts: 261 | From: Blairstown, NJ | Registered: Dec 2001
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Here is the list that showed up well over a year ago. I hung on to it and have used most of them.
Tangerine ~ Magenta & Chrome Yellow
Green (Kiwi) ~ Process Blue & Chrome Yellow
Teal ~ Process Blue & Process Green
Apricot ~ Light Version Ivory, Lemon Yellow, Vermilion (Great on Green Backgrounds)
Apricot ~ Dark Version Ivory, Chrome Yellow, Fire Red (also great on Green backgrounds)
Dark Grey ~ Brilliant Blue & Orange
**** We have lightened the last 3 with white with great success ****
Darkening Maroon without it turning muddy, try adding purple first. It will turn a much more attractive burgundy. Now you can add black a little at a time to darken it.
Beautiful Tan ~ Try chrome yellow and purple for a rich, warm tan.
Beautiful Brown ~ Try fire red and emerald green, reddish brown
Incidently, Ed 'BIG DADDY' Roth's recipe for his RAT FINK green is Emerald Green and Lemon Yellow. The idea was to reach PMS 375. One Shot was alledgedly working on this color but who knows what they'll do if ever.
Lee
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-------------------- Lee V. Hulick AKA Vance 139 Weinland St. New Carlisle, OH 45344 Posts: 101 | From: New Carlisle, OH | Registered: Sep 1999
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As far as I know, Sign Craft had the remaining books of ColorTones. There were two versions, one for normal colors and one for florescants. They were developed and marketed by Lynn Carr, who owned Western Sign Supply in Oakland and is now deceased.
If you have one of these mixing guides, hang on to it!
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Hey Allan, This Flesh you speak of, is it Chamois? If so its not quite right. also, I dont know if KC teal was all that needed being really close to bluegreen. I do love the proper purple. I always wondered... we all know how bad emerald green covers, but if you mix proc. blue and chrome yellow you can match it perfect and covers excellent, so how come one shot can't do it for us? I love the new mettalics and pearls, but also cover poorly, I have had some sucsess with the pearls by adding a bit of the same color normal. for instance add a little brilliant blue into the pearl blue, it takes away some of the pearlesance but gives it better coverage. also drop a few drops of yellow black & white into the mettalics gold, brass, and copper for better coverage.
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The "Colortone paint mixing guide" was sold through Signcraft. The person who made it is deceased and is no longer in publication. Signcraft has been out of them for over a year. Thanks to a fellow Letterville person, I was able to buy one on this BB, via snail mail for $20. It is wonderful! Good luck finding one!
Diane Balch signs@balchsigns.com
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since its outa print...and you have one....can it be copied and resold? since the original person is deceased....and its no longer in production....
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On the poor coverage of pearlescents thing-- The label does say it can be brushed or airbrushed-- I think it also says translucent, and that sort of implies it doesn't cover very well. Have found it works real well when airbrushed over a base coat of whatever. The color/effect depends on what over what.
On the "flesh" color---this is most likely going to be considered Politically Incorrect--but considering all the various races, ethnic persuasions, etc. how does one determine what is a right and proper "flesh" color?
-------------------- Bill Preston Fly Creek, N.Y. USA Posts: 943 | From: Fly Creek, N.Y. USA | Registered: Jan 2000
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Hi Heads- What about my favorite, magenta, mixed with reflex or brilliant blue? Purty. Love- JILL ps remember, process blue smells best...
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Hey Bill, of course my flesh wouldnt be the one we want, kinda New England Irishman flesh... although the "tan" they have is more of a South beach tan. Maybe some where in between with a bit more rosie tint to it. I also love the pearls airbrushed over other colors, the transparency make it nice over a mettalic. Try this... White base coat, silver intermediate coat, and pearl accents. Like working with kandies.
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