posted June 02, 2002 02:27 AM
Hello Gang, Posted this about a week ago and not many responses so here it is again.... Trying to paint a club dance floor with different symbols of the 70's, preferably in a flourescent paint, the floor is tongue and groove wood that is about 70 years old any suggestions on what to do? What paint to use? Etc,,,,, Thanks a Bunch
[ June 02, 2002, 02:30 AM: Message edited by: Jim Barrett ]
-------------------- Jim Barrett Rebos Signs 1602 Lewis Road jj_barrett@hotmail.com Posts: 8 | From: Lakewood ,Ohio | Registered: May 2002
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posted June 02, 2002 01:39 PM
you can probably tell by my photo that this is an area i've dabbled in...
is this supposed to be black light reactive? if so,...
1. you need a bright white primer (block out seems to work). 2. you need to make sure your flourescent paint is black light reactive -- there are special theatrical paints you might look into for this. (the 1-shot is not -- it is a day-glow type paint, which looks bright under full spectrum daylight, but looks dull under black light). 3. top-coat with a couple of coats of urathane.
I'm pretty sure you can do it all with acrylics (water based paints) -- they will expand and contract with the wood floor better. you need three full days for the urathane to cure before anybody can dance on it... so the owner better beware.
I would do a 4'x4' test in a corner of the club and see how it works -- lots of tricky conditions could be fatal to the job. better to be safe and test, than to do a lot of work and have to re-do it.
oh,... and i'm sure somebody else will say it, so i'll beat them to the punch...
put yourself in the right headspace before you do the work. (set and setting... ) Nothing looks worse than uptight hippie graphics.
-------------------- :: Scooter Marriner :: :: Coyote Signs :: :: Oakland, CA :: :: still a beginner :: :: Posts: 1356 | From: Oakland (and San Francisco) | Registered: Mar 2001
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posted June 02, 2002 02:10 PM
A will try a wing-it answer. If I was going to do it, I would do one of 2 things. In both cases I would sand to smooth raw wood, and then use a sanding sealer and then lightly resand. I would then either use epoxies for lastivity or enamels with something like Por 15's Pelucid as an overcoat.....or I would use HP vinyl and use the 3M floorguard vinyl over it as a protector. These you will see used in Toy's R Us all over the computer game areas. They last pretty well. The floorguard may also work well over enamels.
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posted June 02, 2002 04:55 PM
i was going to suggest vinyl, but i don't know how long that stuff lasts... the Toys R Us graphics (and other floor graphics) seem to be "short term". They get replaced every 3 months when the new product/ad campaign/whatever comes out. (maybe the stuff they use in subway stations would work -- i guess if 10000 people can walk across it every day it will last long enough). dancing is "heavy use".
Who does basketball floors? (gym floors). whatever they use is what you ought to use.
-------------------- :: Scooter Marriner :: :: Coyote Signs :: :: Oakland, CA :: :: still a beginner :: :: Posts: 1356 | From: Oakland (and San Francisco) | Registered: Mar 2001
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posted June 02, 2002 08:34 PM
oh...and you need to drop some "acid"....to get the right designs.......hehehehhehehehehe
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posted June 03, 2002 08:21 AM
Thanks everyone so far! Scooter it does not have to be black light reflective but if I could find a good source for that then that would be way cool! Is this Pelucid stuff as good as I hear about? In the past for bartops and such I have used Bahr 50-50 Polyurethane but in the Cleveland Market they have pulled it all. I guess it has a rep for making children sick when they eat it! Also does anyone know if Pelucid can be applied to wall murals? Or is it just strictly a horizontal overcoat as such? Old Paint as far as dropping the tab, I guess I have to rely upon the memories in my vault!
Later and out! Jim Barrett
-------------------- Jim Barrett Rebos Signs 1602 Lewis Road jj_barrett@hotmail.com Posts: 8 | From: Lakewood ,Ohio | Registered: May 2002
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posted June 03, 2002 09:44 AM
Here's some types of Water-based fluorescents (UV/blacklight paint) Rosco fluorescent and Vivid FX (also made by Rosco) www.rosco.com Wildfire fluorescent and invisible fluorescents www.wildfirefx.com And then there's Nocturn. By far the best. I swear by this stuff. www.nocturnuv.com
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