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I'm currently clearing my gilded work on vehicles with two part urethane, and I'm thinking of switching to the new One Shot UV Clear. Anyone tried it?
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Bruce, Brian and Howard Bertram never use clear over gold. I tried it on some sign foam and it's 3 yrs later and the gold looks great. Try it. Every gold I put clear on always broke down.
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Pelucid clear works perfectly and is permanent.
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If you're doing emergency vehicles such as firetrucks,etc,I would stick with the 2 part eurathanes.They will withstand much more abuse than the single stage one shot product.Just my opinion,but until I see otherwise,I'm stickin' with somethin I "know" works. I've had firemen "wash" off Imron clears with tha silt in their wash mittens.
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You're wrong about this one, Timi. Go to my website at www.stmariegraphics.com click on the "Carvings" page, check it out and then click on the "Products" page and read what's there. Pelucid is intended spcifically for ALL metals, painted or unpainted.
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I was going to state my opinion regarding the clearcoat but instead I'll say this.
Pierre, I coated the complete chassis, floor and interior of my Valiant in POR 15 over 9 years ago because of something I read in Hemmings and to this day do not regret it whats so ever. Regards to Pelucid, since you state that is is a very hard finish I was wondering is it flexible as well? Vehicles such as cars and trucks that use a clearcoat over whatever artwork must also be flexible so cracking does not occur. I'd love to try some Pelucid for a small project I'm working on for myself.
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Hey, Joey.......Stays felxible and gets harder every time it gets wet. The factory is going to ship me some 1/2 pint cans so youse guys can try it out for yourselves inexpensively. It's cheap at the price anyway. It was designed for the undercarriages on semi trucks.
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For a start, I would not use clear over gold unless it was a very, very unusual circumstance. Then if I did, it would not be a poly-urethane, it would be something flexible, even if it was a bit soft, like a spar varnish with some oil in it.
I state this out of experience. I have previously used PU because it is hard and abrasive resistant. Seems like just the thing for vehicles, but in ALL cases, it has not lasted long enough. One case, with constant full sun exposure, lasted only two years. The clear just cracks up due to its inflexibility.
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Hi Bruce, how have you been? I have used 1-Shot Uv Clear on 2-3 gold jobs. Although it works better than the Cromatic Clear Overcoat it still appears to need another coat when dry. IMO. As far as durability, I can't say as I have not seen these jobs since. But I havn't heard back from the customer either. Sorry I could't be of more help. See ya at Howard's some time. Tom
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Pierre,I'm not wrong & you may very well not be either.Read my response again it said nothing whatsoever about that clear yer hawkin'nor did the original question.It was a question about a relatively new one shot product. So,...I state again, Bruce,I would stick with a product that I know works,the 2 part urethanes work.They will hold up to abrasive silt in wash mittens alot better than normal one stage products & protect your gilding on vehicles.
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Timi, for stuff that's not too big, I've mixed the two part eurethanes and used that for a quick size, gilded, then cleared with the same stuff.
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Hi, Timi......I may have misread your post. I'm not "hawkin'" anything. You do the math. This Pelucid is far more a service than anything else. When it retails for $40to $48 and I provide it to Letterheads for $29.90, do you think we're making much of ANYthing on it? Hardly. If I had to make a living with it I'd starve. We're a working active sign shop and engraving studio that stumbled on Pelucid four years ago. We've tried to share what this amazing clear will do for signs, but, truthfully, the strange attitudes about merchants here is convincing us that we're wasting our time. My apologies to you for misunderstanding your post.
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When and where to use clear??? I have found it to take a lot of effect from the gold, and I don't use it at all, but then I haven't did a vehicle body yet with it. How often do you clear your golds? Bronzeo
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I don't do vehicles and the only one I did turned out like dog doo. I have, however, done hundreds of blasted signs, interior as well as exterior. I don't clear anything and have found the gold to be as lustrous as the day I put it on.
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It sounds as though some of you are putting clear on signs that should not be cleared. Only vehicles that get washed regularly need it. We used to use Sikkens two part epoxy clear, but the company has since been purchased by an American company and that means they have to take out anything good that makes it last by law and the Beloved EPA. We are using Frog Juice with success. Bill Riedel PS> Have you ever read of a child that got lead poisoning from eating a sign?
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Thanks to everyone who has responded. No, I'm not putting clear over gilded signs. I'm only referring to vehicles, on which i'm using one-shot's quick size to gild. Particularly, I'm having trouble with clear lasting on over-the-road trucks, which take quite a beating. I started with the sikkens over ten years ago, which lasted quite well, but switched to Ditzler because it was easier to get. However, I've had some breakdown recently, and figured it was time to either go back to the sikkens, which may not be the same formula any more, or try one of the newer generation products. I noticed that Frog Juice and the new one-shot UV smell the same and I'm wondering if they are a similar product. I've emailed one shot with technical questions but have not received a response. I'mplanning on testing the Pelucid, which seems to hold the most promise. Any other comments are welcome. Again, I appreciate the knowledge and experience from you all.
Bruce
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I used it on this truck a couple months ago at Chathams Dixie meet. The clear seems bullet proof! I've since been buying it and like it VERY much!
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