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Chuck Nichols
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help please. i have 2 bannermax (from ameriban) banners that i was going to apply vinyl to. my customer would now like to have painted instead. the folks at ameriban said that this won't work because the paint will never dry. i am not doubting ameriban, but i am wonering if there is a way around this. any help would be appreciated.
thanks,
chuey

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Chuck Nichols
Liquid Signs
San Diego

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Bob Burns
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The banners you have are NOT enamel receptive. To make them that way you need to apply a quick drying liquid available from your banner supplier.
I can't remember what the stuff is called, but it's milky white and dries clear. I used tpo get the stuff from BEST BUY BANNER a long time ago!

Hope this helps!

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Bob Burns


www.vondutch.freeservers.com

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Michael Boone
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Tycote is one brandname that works good..
I usually roller coat it...then brush out bubbles with a 4 " china bristle brush
it works well.

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Michael Boone
Sign Painter
5828 Buerman Rd.Sodus,NY 14551

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John Smith
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Put those two banners in your stock inventory for future vinyl use. Buy two more that ARE enamel receptive and move on. Ameriban has banners that are both vinyl AND enamel receptive. Check it out.

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John Smith
Kings Bay Signs (Retired)
Kissimmee, Florida

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old paint
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what john said...

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joe pribish-A SIGN MINT
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pensacola, fl 32526
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BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND

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Ditto.

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Santo Brocato
Promotion Graphics & Letters
Spring, TX

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Stephen Deveau
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Why throw these two banners in the Corner?

1 Litre of "Lacquer Thinners", Wipe them down with

1 Litre of "Enamel Koat Product". Wipe over banner with it and allow to dry!

Company:(Enamel-Coat)
(Best Buy Banner Co.)
California.

Ask your supplier.. for a product next to it.

You will not use all of either product. and can have more than enough for other items...

Now ready to letter with Enamel Paints!!!!!!

Your purchase on both products.
1 Litre Lacquers $1.99
1 Litre Top-Coat $19.95

4 ozs. of each to coat Banners and the remainder of the (items paid for by the Customer)is now in your shelf for the next job....

Use Them and Make some Money!

Charge the over Cost on the Extras...

[Cool] [Cool]

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Stephen Deveau
RavenGraphics
Insinx Digital Displays

Letting Your Imagination Run Wild!

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David Kilgore
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If you have to use this banner, like Mike said the Ty-cote definately works, it will hold the enamel and dry.

Dave

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Dave & Diann Kilgore
Signs by Dave
Wellsville, Pa
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Monte Jumper
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One more method has not been mentioned here...use Vinyl Sceen Ink and thin it with lacquer thinner and a little vinyl retarder.

Hand letter or mask and roll...thiss will give your customer a banner that the lettering will outlast the banner itself.

I have a banner on the front of my shop that is 8 years old now and not faded a bit.

BY the way have plenty of ventilation when using the vinyl ink!

"Werks fer me it'll werk fer you"

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"Werks fer me...it'll werk fer you"

Monte Jumper
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Si Allen
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Believe it or not...cheapest "tie coat' is Johnson's Kleer Floor wax" (just mop on 2 coats and letter with enamel!

Last time I suggested this...i got called all kinds ob bad names..."how can ya use "wax" on a banner, as a tie coat?"....well it isn't a wax...it's a water based acrylic...similar to all the "tie coats" !!!

[Smile]

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One other solution is to use Deka (acryllic) paints. I just did a banner yesterday with Deka -- lettered it at 10, rolled it up and delivered it at noon. the stuff dries FAST. i use it over vinyl letters too.

i'm stocking and painting a lot more white vinyl -- that means fewer colored vinyls to keep in stock. the paint takes up very little room, and even I can paint an outline faster than cutting, weeding and applying a second color of vinyl. plus, theres a pretty good materials savings on 10" letters.

bad news is that i'm told Deka is out of business... so i don't know what to do after the backstock is gone. maybe Ronan's water-based paints? i went down to Pearl Art Supply and bought up a few extra cans of Deka to last me a year or so.

i'll have to try the acryllic floor wax thing -- sounds neat! (and i'll bet it flows out with fewer bubbles than Ti-Coat does).

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:: Coyote Signs ::
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Chuck Nichols
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thanks everyone. i took th easy wat out. 1 banner waits in stock for another day, one is getting vinyl and 1 enamel receptive banner is coming from ameriban.

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Chuck Nichols
Liquid Signs
San Diego

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