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this will help me out, and maybe help out a few lurkers, too.
i'm doing my first paint-mask on glass job, and thought i'd better check in to see what i can learn before i go out and make a fool of myself in front of my customer.
i've already applied the letters to the windows (i'm using Avery paint mask vinyl). the letters are on the outside of the glass because its dark tinted. i washed the window with BonAmi before applying, and cleaned with Rapid Tac after (to erase the white stabilo lines).
i'll be applying 1-shot paint (custom mixed, Pantone 319, light aqua) with a roller. So, here are the questions: black foam roller or white Shur-line rollers? how long before removing the mask? one coat, two coats? i'm guessing the coverage will be a little translucent (i did a test panel, and it was translucent). does it matter?
(some of my questions were answered in the related "gold size and paint mask" thread, but this is paint, not gilding, so maybe there are other things i need to know.
i was also thinking of doing a "rag" effect (plastic bag) to make the paint a bit more interesting -- do i do that wet on wet, or wait overnight for the first coat to dry? will that make my edges messy when i peel up the mask?
here's what it looks like. (the lines on the top and bottom will be 1/4" silver 1-shot stripes)
any help is appreciated.
-------------------- :: Scooter Marriner :: :: Coyote Signs :: :: Oakland, CA :: :: still a beginner :: :: Posts: 1356 | From: Oakland (and San Francisco) | Registered: Mar 2001
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Scooter.......I'm in the process of painting my own shop window. I'm using a vinyl paint mask. I laid down the outline tonite before I left and removed the masking so as not to leave an "edge". I painted it with black 1Shot and a #8 quill. Tomorrow I am going to use a technique that I read about in Signcraft about a year and a half ago in an article by Casper Cox. He painted a "faux" variegated leaf effect using cotton balls wrapped in cheeseclothand, daubing different shades of red/orange/gold. In the article, he advised using boiled linseed oil for flow and to keep the paint from drying too soon. It looked really cool. I'll try to post some pics when finished.
[ May 14, 2002, 10:51 PM: Message edited by: Mike Kelly ]
-------------------- Mike"Spud"Kelly zipperhead design Westminster, MA Posts: 367 | From: Westminster, MA | Registered: Mar 2001
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Good artical to relate to Mike. That is a nice effect. Scooter, How are you planning to get the silver strips down? Tack time on the paint and for me here that 20-30 minutes, but I live in the topics. That will pull the mask off the blue and the letters. You are going to have to go in a get the "donut holes" or middle parts of the 4 "e"s at the same time.
The paint here is one shot metallic gold and brass. The black is HP vinyl. I used gerber mask and applied the paint using 9" black poly rollers. I also use foam rubber to spot blend or stipple where it looks like it might be a little too light or transparent.
A good source for this is Walmart...you can buy foam mattress pads for about 6 or 7 bucks... lasts a long time and handy to have around.
Try to remove the stencil while the paint is still wet. Errors can be trimmed with a razor.
The windows were done in 1999.
-------------------- Jeff Vrstal Main Street Signs 157 E. Main Street Evansville, WI 53536 1-608-882-0322 Posts: 670 | From: Evansville, Wisconsin | Registered: Sep 2001
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Scooter, there is an article that I wrote on paint mask on glass in the current issue of Sign Builder Illustrated, that might answer some of your questions.
-------------------- Jerry Mathel Retired Grants Pass, Oregon signs@grantspass.com Posts: 916 | From: Grants Pass, OR USA | Registered: Dec 1998
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Yeah, you really want to pull the mask as soon as you can. What happens is the paint gets just as stuck (maybe more so) to the mask as it does to the glass, so mask will pull little bits of paint away from the glass with it .... ugly. I'd back up anything that goes on glass, unless of course you want light to get through it.
-------------------- Jon Androsky Posts: 438 | From: Williamsport, PA | Registered: Mar 2002
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Hey Jerry.....I saw your article with Joey in it. Nice article! Explains just what you need to know Scooter.
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