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Correction; What application tape do you use for sandblast mask? I have yet to cut sandblast mask on my plotter. I've handcut because it's usually pretty big signs anyway. The last shop I worked for used duct tape for application tape. Cheers
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-------------------- Rob Thomas 3410 Ketcham Ct Beautiful Springs FL 34134 Posts: 965 | From: Bonita Springs, Florida USA | Registered: Feb 2000
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Robert, Are you asking what flavor of stencil to use in your plotter? Are you using a friction feed plotter? I use Anchor #153 in mine.
After applying the stencil I put scrap stencil around the edges, put application tape over the back (if it's one sided) and use duct tape around the edges to hold the edges of the app tape down.
-------------------- Wayne Webb Webb Signworks Chipley, FL 850.638.9329 wayne@webbsignworks.com Posts: 7404 | From: Chipley,Florida,United States | Registered: Oct 1999
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Anchor 116 is high tack for raw wood. 117 is medium tack for prepainted surfaces or primed HDU. Just this month, I have found two new products that I will be tooting up every chance I get. It is Anchor 130 and T227 that is just as easy to cut, weed and apply as vinyl!!!! Both are extremely easy to cut with a 60 degree blade. It feeds nicely on friction feed cutters and comes punched for tractor feed. The T227 does not have tractor holes. Both have a paper backing. Both do not have the powder that 116 and 117 have. A free phone call to the Intertape Polymer Group at 1-800-628-8856 ext. 5538 for a free sample will be well worth your while!!!!
Disclaimer: I have NO association with this company or its employees. It is just that I am so impressed with this product that I want to share it with my fellow craftsmen !!!
-------------------- John Smith Kings Bay Signs (Retired) Kissimmee, Florida Posts: 816 | From: Central Florida - The Sunshine State | Registered: Jan 2000
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I really like R Tape clear for premask on sandblast rubber. With the clear release liner (Anchor 153 & 155) and clear R tape it is very easy to align the rubber and the R Tape clear has plenty of tack for the heavy rubber.
John, thanks for the info. I am definatly going to call anchor to find out about 130 & T227. The absolute ONLY thing I don't like about anchor is the powder.
-------------------- Dave Sherby "Sandman" SherWood Sign & Graphic Design Crystal Falls, MI 49920 906-875-6201 sherwoodsign@sbcglobal.net Posts: 5397 | From: Crystal Falls, MI USA | Registered: Apr 1999
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I use the same application tape I use for vinyl. I buy the punched Anchor 116 and 117 for my 15" plotter (Old Gerber Signmaker IV-A with Unilink FastBoard--I have been trying to kill it for 20 years and haven't succeeded yet). I buy unpunched 24" rolls for larger fill in areas. We wipe the powder off with a damp cloth before masking.
-------------------- David Harding A Sign of Excellence Carrollton, TX Posts: 5084 | From: Carrollton, TX, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Awile back i ran out of some clear transfer tape that I had instock for years made just for sandblast masking I dont remember what he brand it was and my suppliers did not carry anything any more that was specaily for sandblast masking , so in a pinch ive been useing 2" clear packing tape that you use for taping up boxs for shipping the only draw back is its only 2" wide and you have to do it in several over laping strips for larger stuff . its easy to find all over town and it works in a pinch and its cheap
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A good way to do really large signs is to make a pounce pattern on your plotter. Just use a pen and don't perforate it. Lay your stencil onto the blank and roll it down good, align your paper pattern, hinge it, lift it up and spray the stencil with spray adhesive (available at Wal-mart). Carefully lower the pattern onto the adhesive, take a sharp x-acto knife and cut it out by hand following the pen lines, thru the paper. Keep the knife perpendicular to the surface so there will be no undercuts. I've cut a many o'one like this.
It's a lot more accurate and faster than using a pounce pattern and chalk, charcoal or carbon paper.
-------------------- Wayne Webb Webb Signworks Chipley, FL 850.638.9329 wayne@webbsignworks.com Posts: 7404 | From: Chipley,Florida,United States | Registered: Oct 1999
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Anchor 130 far succeeds the 117 medium tack by far !! It is thinner and cuts and weeds just like vinyl. There is NO powder to wipe off. It transfers to your substrate with regular vinyl application tape. Although high tack tape is suggested.
-------------------- John Smith Kings Bay Signs (Retired) Kissimmee, Florida Posts: 816 | From: Central Florida - The Sunshine State | Registered: Jan 2000
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Thanks for the suggestions. Wayne, Another way to to do a sandblast layout is to cut & apply cheap three year vinyl to your sandbalst mask. Then handcut around the letters/graphic. It also works good for cutout letters. I have tried the paper trick as well. I usually buy a 50 yrd. roll of black for patterns and temporary signs. Cheers
-------------------- Rob Thomas 3410 Ketcham Ct Beautiful Springs FL 34134 Posts: 965 | From: Bonita Springs, Florida USA | Registered: Feb 2000
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