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Is it just me, or are the bitmap images suppose to look that way... I mean are the colors suppose to be that ugly when you view them on the screen? I just got off the phone with tech support and I'm really no further ahead. When you import a file say 15 MEGS Into omega, the colors and resolution are horendous, and when you select it, it takes about 8 seconds for the computer to make the calculations so you can move it. The colors are completely off and washed out in some instances. I did install the Monoco EZCOLOR and it really did'nt help at all. I tell you I opened the exact same file in 6.21 and it is crisp and clean, and the colors are the way they are suppose to be. Help!
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SIGNS1st. Neil Butler Paradise, NF Posts: 6277 | From: St. John's NF Canada | Registered: Mar 1999
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Neil, did you try going to Image Fill and changing the resolution and bits per pixel settings? If I set those to the highest level it looks pretty much like it looks in Photoshop. I usually don't set them that high though because it doesn't affect the print, only what I see on the monitor. I have Photoshop set as my image editor so when I click on edit image it opens photoshop, then I edit, save and replace the image. I may have gotten off track here, but I hope this helps.
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Hi Chuck, yes I did all that, I tell you It is not even close to whats on the screen in Photoshop, or even the other computers which has 6.21. this is starting to bug me... I mean how are you suppose to design around an image with the colors completely off and dilluted, i tell you it's the ****z.
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SIGNS1st. Neil Butler Paradise, NF Posts: 6277 | From: St. John's NF Canada | Registered: Mar 1999
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When I get home from work tonight (around 7pm est), I'll post some screen captures for you. Setting up Omega or any program for proper color correction and display is a bit of a bear.
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That's great Glenn, I tell you I'm Dizzy try'n to figure this one out, Chuck I hope the image looks as good as you say it does in Omega, by the way did you have the old 6.2 software? Glenn is Chuck correct in saying that the image should look almost as good as Photo shop? Glenn, I Also just emailed you a couple of shots... thanks Guys. Neil
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SIGNS1st. Neil Butler Paradise, NF Posts: 6277 | From: St. John's NF Canada | Registered: Mar 1999
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There's an old saying .... Beware what you ask for; you may get it."
That is what's happened here with Omega. One of most requested features asked for when Gerber was developing Omega was for more color correction control like other highend software (i.e. - Photoshop). Well, Gerber gave 'em what they wanted.
First, lets look at the Color Management control window.
You'll find it under "File / Color Management". Please note the settings.
At the bottom of the window and just above the "OK" button is the "Black / White Filter" button.
Set all of the numbers to the recommended defaults.
After clicking on the respective "OK" buttons, you should be back at the Composer window. Import a raster image. (I appologize for the size of the image, but I think its important).
Look at the quality of the raster image "OLD". See how pixelated the gradient is in the text.
Next, click on the "Image Fill" icon.
Color Type: Process Source Image Color Profile: Gerber (GSP) RGB Halftone: GerberTone Photo Thumbnail: Bits per Pixel - 8; Resolution - High
Its the "Thumbnail" sliders that control the quality of the raster image in composer. This is the default setting that I use. Remember how pixelated the gradient is in Composer? This is why. This is also where problems can occur.
Not everyone has a real powerful computer and the same video card. Its these "Thumbnail" controls that lets the user select what works best for his/her computer. The video card is going to have a lot to do with how well the image moves on the screen.
Until a few weeks ago, I was using a Voodoo3 3000 video card. If I set the "Bits per Pixel" to its highest setting - 24 - moving the raster image took forever. The redraw was extremely slow.
Then, I switched to an ATI Radeon 7000 video card. Things improved dramatically. When I moved the "Bits per Pixel" setting to 24, the image looks just like it would in Photoshop. It also moves much better and the redraw is much much faster.
A word of caution though....The larger the raster image size, the more strain on your computer resources. If you are working in 24 Bits per Pixel, you are really gonna give your computer a work out.
Anyhow, all of this is just to give you a base from which to begin making adjustments for color accuracy. Back in the Color Management window, under Device Profiles / Monitor, you will want to try the ICM color profile you created with Monaco. It will take some experimentation until you get it the way you want it.
Try these and see how it goes. I've e-mailed my home telephone number to you.
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Yes, I had GA 6.2. I must have just gotten lucky and had mine set up right from the start. I've only messed with the color settings on the black/white filters a little.
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Gee that was simple! The black and white filter was the culprit.. my settings were way off. You'd think Tech support would know that... Thanks a million Glen, I spent less than a minute doing what you said to do and it worked perfectly. Thanks again... Neil
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SIGNS1st. Neil Butler Paradise, NF Posts: 6277 | From: St. John's NF Canada | Registered: Mar 1999
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Nah...its not Tech support's fault. They're good people - especially Adam. Everyone's computer/monitor is different. I can have two identical computers with identical monitors and the settings will end up being different.
I have a lot of sympathy for tech suppport people. I can just imagine the kinds of calls they get.
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hey glenn, what release number is that you have? i dont have the checkbox at the top "use these settings in all omega programs" or the default gsp monitor.....
Your getting a glimpse of the soon to be released Service Pack which includes Omega 1.56. Something else to note, take a peak at the top option in the foil palettes to the right side of the screen. This should make some that insist on using a mouse a bit happier. (Next request will be a “null” fill swatch; until it shows up just hit [CTRL]+[1] with the item(s) selected)
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Can I suppose, from your screen shots, that Omega has a "WIN XP" update out now??? If so, where did you get the update and does it seem reliable?
Also: Is there a way that you can work in Omega without having to F7 constantly to get a correct redraw or "refresh" after making every little change? This is extremely annoying, and I know this was a problem years ago with the Advantage software.
It's especially annoying when trying to position a raster image in registration to a cutline object. Man...
-------------------- Todd Gill Outside The Lines Potterville, MI Posts: 7792 | From: Potterville, MI | Registered: Dec 2001
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The screen shots were from my Omega DS. I don't know if its been qualified for Windows XP yet. I had to use Windows NT's driver for the Rainbow Security program to work properly. I'm still using Win98se for my Omega CP to drive my Edge-2.
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This should make some that insist on using a mouse a bit happier. (Next request will be a “null” fill swatch; until it shows up just hit [CTRL]+[1] with the item(s) selected)
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