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HI I really need help pricing a job that I really want to take up.....I really don't know how to price this.....its 500 and possibly 1000 vinyl decals of about 1.5 inches by 7 inches nothing too complicated in intermidiate vinyl....all cut and taped. PLease reply I have this customer on hold, thank you for your time and concideration. Take care.Rui
-------------------- Image is everything Rui Batista Hyper graphix custom auto graphix http://www.hyper-graphix.com Posts: 17 | From: New Bedford, MA | Registered: Mar 2002
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Rui, tell us a little about what it is. Just a few simple letters or a tiny,hard to weed, detailed logo would make a big differance. $2 ea and the customer would have a fit. John
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HI thank you for the prompt reply...they are not too hard they are website urls in a logo type format with a thin outline, the thing is that I had quoted precisely $2 each and the customer asked me the same question again meaning it was too much for his blood thats why I resorted here so I can have a different look at the situation throught someone else with more experience.Please reply.Thank you
-------------------- Image is everything Rui Batista Hyper graphix custom auto graphix http://www.hyper-graphix.com Posts: 17 | From: New Bedford, MA | Registered: Mar 2002
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I would find a screen printer nearby. You cut the amberlith (several up)... and make yourself some money without doing much work.
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HI how would that work on the vinyl...they have to be made out of vinyl, they will be applied to vehicle windows and such...thank you for the reply
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You could have them screened on clear vinyl. I don't know what they say or what the purpose is. But 1000 small 'decals' is alot to weed.
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If they just have to be vinyl, screenprinting could be the cheapest. If they have to be CUT vinyl then that changes things, I do a lot of decals in cut vinyl, screen printed vinyl & digitally printed vinyl (with & without cuts)
If they want the letters "floating" on the glass without the excess clear material that results from printing on a square pc. of vinyl, then they will pay more for that.
If they don't mind basically a bumper sticker printed on clear stock, then I agree with Cheryl. If they want the minumum of excess vinyl, then cutting, weeding, & masking is the better looking, more labor intensive, & expensive way of doing this. I would worry about the "thin" outline you mentioned. I'd say invest $10 worth of vinyl in running a test batch where you time the cutting, & most important the weeding. You should be able to decide how much material & time is involved for 500 pcs. & price as low as you would be happy with.
I do a lot of "cut" decals on the gerber edge where a contour is cut around the perimeter of a design but within that I print lot of complex detail that ranges from difficult to impossible to weed, but the only weeding needed is the outer shape. This often achieves the same high-end contour cut look, but for the added cost of thermal printing, I save a huge amount of labor cost.
Also I should add that before I got my own edge I sold a lot of jobs like this & paid a wholesale price to another shop & was still able to sell a lot of this type of work at mark-ups of 150 - 200%
Here are some examples of potential weeding nightmares that were produced on the edge with a minimal of weeding & still basically a die-cut look.
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This sounds like a job for the "Edge".... 1 color cut to shape, I don't think something that small would need masking, 75 cents each and it don't really matter if there's 500 or a 1000.
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This sounds like a job for the "Edge".... 1 color cut to shape, I don't think something that small would need masking, 75 cents each and it don't really matter if there's 500 or a 1000.
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SIGNS1st. Neil Butler Paradise, NF Posts: 6277 | From: St. John's NF Canada | Registered: Mar 1999
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HI I will discuss the issue with the customer this upcoming weekend and then I will make a decision...I really like the edge idea I am not looking forward to all that weeding....I will post a reply later one and I want to thank everybody for the great hindsight and feedback in regard to this issue...you guys are great
-------------------- Image is everything Rui Batista Hyper graphix custom auto graphix http://www.hyper-graphix.com Posts: 17 | From: New Bedford, MA | Registered: Mar 2002
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The Edge would be faster But, Silkscreen with a die cut will make you more profit with a 1000 quantity if you can wait more than 2 weeks to get it You don't list what colors you need,on clear you might have to underbase with white 1000 decals 11 to 17sq" = about 16 cents for 1 color,2nd color add 5 cents,die charge about $86? (square or round no extra charge) Up Sell the job with a 3rd color for another 5 cents a decal So a 2 color die cut decal on clear would cost you about 30 cents each
-------------------- Neil Senior NA North Hollywood CA,91606 Posts: 5 | From: Los Angeles, CA | Registered: Jan 2002
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Time yourself on plotting, weeding, masking, taping and cutting ten pieces. If that takes 10 minutes to do it'll take over 8 hours to do 500 of them. At $65/hour plus materials I'm guessing I'd charge about $1.50 to $2.00 each (1 color).
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