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DianeBalch
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This is a first for me. I applied some intermediate vinyl to a banner 3 days ago. i had cleaned the banner first with alcohol. I rolled it loosely with the vinyl side out. Today when I unrolled it for the customer, I discovered some of the vinyl was peeling off. So I took a hairdryer and re-squeegeed it. The customer is using it tonight for 4 hour function and then for a homeshow banner. I told her if she had more trouble with it I would replace the vinyl with a different brand. Does anybody have any idea what went wrong? Thanks for any advise.

Diane Balch
signs@balchsigns.com

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Balch Signs
1045 Raymond Rd
Malta, NY 12020
518 885-9899
signs@balchsigns.com
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roger bailey
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Sure, you didn't clean banner with Rapid Tac or Rapid Prep.

What do you use to wipe with?
Paper towell from grocery store? Cloth rag?

Roger [Wink] [Roll Eyes]

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Roger Bailey
Rapid Tac Incorporated
186 Combs Dr.
Merlin Oregon
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Bill Dirkes
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What kind of banner was it? Sounds like a "Regal" banner. They are designed for screen inks or hp vinyl. I've had way too much trouble with em to ever buy another.

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Bill Dirkes
Cornhole Art LLC
Bellevue, Ky.
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Steve Burke
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How long did you wait before rolling up the banner? Maybe the adhesive had no chance to grab...

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Steve Burke
Cascades Inc
NS Canada

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Randy Campbell
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My supplier told me I had to order paint orrrr vinyl receptive banners.

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Randall Campbell
Randy's Graphics,
420 Fairfield N.
Hamilton Ontario Canada

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Jeffrey Vrstal
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Years ago I had a problem using intermediate vinyl on a regal banner. I liked the regal banner at the time as I thought it looked better up close in a trade show setting... more like a fine linen. The red intermediate lifted off of the banner while the black intermediate stayed in place. The banner was sent across the country so there was no chance that I would be able to fix it in time for the trade show to take place. The client used some sort of adhesive spray to get him through the show.

Afterwards, I attemted to figure out why this failed. The banner manufacturer blamed the vinyl...the vinyl people blamed the banner manufacturer. I thought that perhaps the red vinyl was beyond shelf life as it was something that I had purchased as a special.

I think that it was a combination of both. Since then (early 90's) vinyl has changed and I don't use that type of banner anymore. (those banners may have changed as well, but I don't know that to be a fact)

This was the only time I ever had a failure like that (so far) and it was not a fun experience. I don't remember if Rapid-Tac was available then or not. Seems to me that there was a product called "Splash" that was an application fluid. I remember having samples but I don't think I used it on those banners.

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Jeff Vrstal
Main Street Signs
157 E. Main Street
Evansville, WI 53536
1-608-882-0322

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DianeBalch
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It was a 12oz vinyl,Ready-roll by Ameriban. I have been using them for 5 years and have had no trouble. I rolled up the banner about 1 hour after completing. (I do that on a regular basis so that I can use my big table for the next project.)

Diane

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Balch Signs
1045 Raymond Rd
Malta, NY 12020
518 885-9899
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http://www.balchsigns.com

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