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I have seen quite a few posts regarding painting on vinyl. The popular answers I've seen were to use Krylon (This is the only method I have tried), screen printing inks and HOK paints.My question is what type of screen printing inks are you using? I looked through an oldDick Blick catalog and there were a bunch of them.As for the House of Kolor paints, which ones? The shimrins and bases(no gloss), the candies(nice gloss, takes WAY to long to dry) or the letting and striping paints(with the hardener I'm assuming).And now to the point of this post, I have to match a vinyl graphic for a customer and it is pearl white with a "chestnut brown" pearl fade, I looked for anything close in Krylon and no go.Will any other automotive paints work? I'm thinking Centari might work.Any ideas? Hope fully some thing with a gloss. I'm under the gun timewise and need to get this done. Thanks
-------------------- David Thompson Pro-Line Graphics Martinsville, NJ
I'm not this dumb, it's just the paint fumes talkin' Posts: 397 | From: Martinsville, NJ | Registered: Oct 2001
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Although I haven't used them I have heard quite a few folks use the new base coat clear coat urethanes with success on vinyl. Maybe Dave Grundy can give you some pointers here,...He says to just prep the vinyl then cut it,....then shoot the paint and weed just before it dries to a full tack.
-------------------- fly low...timi/NC is, Tim Barrow Barrow Art Signs Winston-Salem,NC Posts: 2224 | From: Winston-Salem,NC,USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Yes, I am a big fan of Duplicolor and plasti-kote because you can pretty much match the color of ant car or truck.. Either one is avalible from your local auto parts store..
-------------------- Jason Davie 193 Front Street Deposit, NY 13754 Posts: 976 | From: USA | Registered: Jul 2001
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David, I think when people say screen ink they must be talking about Vinyl Ink - nasty, nasty stuff that works fabulous but will give you a monster headache and nausea from the smell. Takes it's own vinyl ink reducer which is equally as noxious. Still it had (has) many redeeming qualities, like it is so thick I think a quart could be thinned down to about a gallon of lettering consistency - so it lasts forever. And it doesn't skin over in the can very much, so the shelf life is great. Dries very fast and is tuff as hell. A quart of each primary color could put you in stock for any color matching needs for a looong time, making it cheap too. But I still hate it.
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We were using Centari (without hardners) way before I saw anyone talk about Krylon...I like it better and the color choices are never ending...even metallics and pearls.
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David, this is what I do when I have to paint vinyl and Krylon won't do AND ya have to match a specific color:
First of all, I always use Matt White Cast Vinyl (the surface is rough and accepts paint well) jus tclean it and shoot.
When using automotive paint, I stay away from Base Coat because you'll need to clear it as well. Any of these urathane paints tend to make the vinyl soft so this to me is a case of little is more!!
We've used PPG Deltron and Concept on the white vinyl a few times with excellent results! A couple of these jobs are on the front of 45' motor coaches that travel upwards of 100K miles in a year. After a two or three years they definetly are starting to age (NOWHERE near as well as regular HP cast material) But.... The color match is PERFECTO!
-------------------- Mark Neurohr "Ernest" Paintin' Place 141 Sunnyside Road Kittanning, PA 16201
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Many automotive paint supply houses put automotive paint into cans.
For vinyl: scuff then dust with frog juice, then add some House of colors "Pearl Essence" dust on a coat, then finish with straight clear.
For auto: Uro-Clear with some House of colors "Pearl Essence" Scuff lightly with Scotch-Brite, then build up 3-4 coats slowly, kinda flash and walk away and let it set up, you'll spray the final coats a little wet to bring out the gloss.
You might also try some Pearl Mica-Powders in some frog juice. First 2 coats lightly with the pearl, then finish the final coats with no pearl.
With all of the above methods, you wont need much pearl or mica's, because your colors will start getting a little milky looking.
As always do a little tester, and then youy'll have a great sample in your shop.
[ March 28, 2002, 09:28 PM: Message edited by: Ron Percell ]
-------------------- Ron Percell Percell Signs 707-769-0639 Petaluma, California
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