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Bob Burns
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MORE THAN OCCASSIONALLY, SOMEONE POSTS ABOUT A PROBLEM WITH THEIR PROGRAM......IT WON'T DO THIS...IT WON'T DO THAT! WE ALL GO THROUGH IT.
THIS SHOULD BE PROOF THAT EACH AND EVERY PROGRAM HAS A GLITCH OR 2 OR 3 THAT WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT, OR HAVE TO WORK AROUND. THE POINT IS....THERE IS NO PERFECT PROGRAM. IF ONE SEEMS BETTER THAN ANOTHER, IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE WE'RE JUST USED TO IT.
THEY'LL NEVER BE PERFECT! IF THEY WERE, HOW COULD THE MANUFACTURERS SELL YOU AN UPGRADE! HOW MANY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS HAVE QWE SPENT ON UPGRADES IN ORDER TO OVERCOME THE PROBLEMS OF THE PROGRAM WE ALREADY HAVE!?
I'VE GOTTEN TO THE POINT OF "IF WHAT I GOT WON'T DO IT....THE HELL WITH IT"!
ANY THOUGHTS OR RAVINGS ON THIS SUBJECT.

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Bob Burns


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First of all, please don't SHOUT. U&lc is the more polite way to write something.

Bob, The whole reason people are "complaining" in posts about their computer programs is because they are hoping that someone out there has already experienced and subsequently figured out a solution to the problem. This world is too big and difficult to get through alone.

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Kimberly Zanetti Purcell
www.amethystProductivity.com
Folsom, CA
email: Kimberly@AmethystProductivity.com

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Bob, have you been talking to Old Paint? I gotta agree, most of the problems seem to be assoicated to aspects of programs not yet figuraed out by the user or poorly explained or neglected in the user's manual. It's hard to remember that the manual are written by technical writers, not the programers or real endusers, just some journalism grad who read up for a while then wrote the manual. Tomorrow the same guy will be writing about how to install a new hardrive in a computer or something else he knows little about today.
The other aspect is upgrades come too damn quick and 8 releases of 1 version is too many. Consumers need to be able to upgrade 1 version ABSOLUTELY FREE. Boy I gues that will get some programers and software sellers upset. I ain't against them making their money, if they ain't against me getting the value for mine.

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Santo Brocato
Promotion Graphics & Letters
Spring, TX

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Mr.Lettercraft;If people like me whom ask questions can't do it on the BB.what is the BB to be used for? chill out [Mad]

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Randall Campbell
Randy's Graphics,
420 Fairfield N.
Hamilton Ontario Canada

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WHAT'D I DO???????? JEEZZEEEE!!!i didnt even post to this and iam catchin s**t! hahahahahahaha
i agree with what bob says, but if you have more then one program you can do all with ease.
1. corel- for design, layout and cutting...least expensive, easy to use(once you learnt it) and i prefer version 7.467 is the most stable of em all.
stream line 4.0 for vectorization...best little program and version 4 has been around since 97-98 and no upgrades yet....PRINT ARTIST 6.0 is great little $50 program with tons of clipart, for those things you get requests for. the graphic in PA gets copyied to clipboard, paste in corel...and WALA its a vector graphic. also if the PA GRAPHIC IS TO COMPLICATED for copy/paste, PA has a COLORING BOOK print mode. then scan and ya got it. bookkeeping QUICKEN HOME & SMALL BUSINESS, simply and not more crap that you dont need. LOTUS ORGANIZER for those who are organized....addresses, calander, by month by year.....day planner....i can go on..but these are the bsics.....and i do 90% of my work with just these...

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joe pribish-A SIGN MINT
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BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND

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Joey Madden
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I AGREE WITH BOB IN REGARDS TO PROGRAMS, UPDATES AND TYPING IN ALL CAPITALS !
WHY IS TYPING IN ALL CAPS IS CALLED SHOUTING? WHY MUST ONE THINK THAT ANOTHER HAS TO CHILL OUT, SO TO SPEAK JUST TO POST A STATEMENT?

WHY ARE LETTERS CALLED FONTS?

WHY ARE COMPUTER GENERATED DESIGNED SIGNAGE CALLED LOGOS?

WHY HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE ENTERED THIS BUSINESS WITHOUT A CLUE OF WHAT TO DO, AND WHY MUST THOSE WHO HAVE A CLUE OF WHAT TO DO HAVE TO HELP WITHOUT A PAYCHECK?

WHY?

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HotLines Joey Madden - pinstriping since 1952
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roger bailey
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Now Joey, you know you don't have to answer anyones question here or anywhere else, its a choice we all make.

I respond with info. on topics I do or don't benifit from, cause its helpfull, interesting, fun, just part of life, ain't it a beach !Ha hhha ha hha ha

Roger [Smile]

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Roger Bailey
Rapid Tac Incorporated
186 Combs Dr.
Merlin Oregon
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ROGER, MAY 5K IN BEETLES FLY INTO YOUR PAINT AND THE REST INTO YOUR BED.....

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HotLines Joey Madden - pinstriping since 1952
'Perfection, its what I look for and what I live for'




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HUH?
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roger bailey
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Joey, howd you know about that, thought I kept that undes the rug.

Really, last week we were invaded by "nats" not just our house, the whole neighborhood.

Quit smilin Joey !! [Razz]

Rojak [Cool]

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Roger Bailey
Rapid Tac Incorporated
186 Combs Dr.
Merlin Oregon
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Stephen Deveau
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(BUT WERE IS THE HELP FROM YOU (JOEY OR BOB) when the (OTHER PEOPLE ASK?))

So What!
That there maybe repeat questions on a topic! "Computers or Otherwise!"

It keeps our minds in focus to all and everyones needs and problems.

I really don't see the flaming of this?
[Eek!]

Fire Away because I know you will!

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Stephen Deveau
RavenGraphics
Insinx Digital Displays

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BlueDog Graphics
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Warning: A well designed sign may cause fatigue due to increased business.

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P.S.

To help solve the problem before spending more money on unwanted programs!

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Stephen Deveau
RavenGraphics
Insinx Digital Displays

Letting Your Imagination Run Wild!

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Bob Burns
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MY BITCHIN' IS NOT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP, IT'S ABOUT
THE COMPANIES THAT KEEP MAKIN' US HAVE TO CONTINUALLY UPGRADE FOR REASONS NOT MUCH MORE THAN TO FIX THE PROGRAM WE'RE UPGRADING FROM.....
.....PROGRAMS THAT SHOULD'VE WORKED THE FIRST TIME AROUND!
AND IF YOUR BIGGEST PROBLEM IS ME USING CAPITAL LETTERS....YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO PROBLEMS AT ALL! HAVE A NICE DAY!

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Bob,
today I used the power weed function in CoCut and it saved me so much time I wondered why I didn’t read the manual earlier. Damn that company for not telling me to not be so STUPID, after all software is never finished but always in a state of upgrade!

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Ken Morse
Jamn Graphics
Santa Cruz, CA

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Hahaha Glenn!
A:)

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Adrienne Pereira
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I don't disagree, Bob, that a lot of software upgrades are simply 'bug fixes', but look how far coreldraw has evolved. It still has some 'issues' but look at all the features and tools it now has compared to earlier versions. I honestly am looking forward to buying coreldraw 11 when it'll be released just to see what's new in it. I'm sure the same holds true for other softwares ... (not too sure about operating systems 'tho)

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Mike O'Neill


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i think this is all priMATIVE RESOURCES COMMING TOGETHER LIKE the old victrola to todays compact disc. PRETTY SOON THERE WILL BE NO UPGRADES AND UPDATES AND EVERything will operate like a sony playstation or a television. we're all just using what IS AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME. i'VE MET A LOT OF PROGRAMMERS WHO HAVE WROTE SOME OF THESE BIG PROGRAMS AND it's amazing they can get their car (or bicycle in some cases) to work let alone WRITE A MILLION DOLLAR PROGRAM. GOOD POST BOB!

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AirbrushBobby.com
Clearwater, FL
The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing.1Cor1:18
“The wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Jesus Christ our Lord”Rom6:23

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Stephen, helping those who do this craft is alot different then helping those who haven't have a clue of why they chose this craft.
Over the years I've helped many persons including yourself on projects everyone encounters when choosing paint as their medium, thats because its what I know. My website proves this point as still being in the top 5 world-wide on any search engine.

If you feel that re-inventing this craft is something that is not supposed to cater to me, then I guess questions coming from me is also a no-no.
Stephen, you have never failed to amaze me with your insinuations of my replies as if you got it all together and down pat!

NO FLAMES, JUST FACTS!

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HotLines Joey Madden - pinstriping since 1952
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Duh...Looks like I got here just in time...

[ March 27, 2002, 07:19 AM: Message edited by: Jon Aston ]

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Lettercraft please accept my apoligy for my comments yesterday I completely misunderstood your post.After reading it over three times I now understand what your saying and will be able to take my foot out of my mouth. [Roll Eyes]

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Randall Campbell
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Hamilton Ontario Canada

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