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Sure would be nice if there were more residents too..........some of the non residents been saying how great they have been doing, but have not coughed up a measly 50.00....it's a great investment. Just my .02 cents.....
-------------------- Mike Berry New England Posts: 534 | From: New England | Registered: Jan 2002
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That's one of the Laws Of Letterville Glenn. Everyone MUST use their real name and fill out a signature that includes their real name, business name and location.
When someone new registers to post, the BB program emails them a password. If it isn't a valid e-mail address, there should be no way anyone can get a password. If you, or anyone else, are being hassled in any manner because of Letterville, please e-mail us the details.
-------------------- Steve Shortreed 144 Hill St., E. Fergus, Ontario Canada N1M 1G9 519-787-2673
And i also have a private email address. Ill give up to public display when they stop the SPAM!!!
There are spiders that crawl websites just to get email address for spammers.
I did a test one day just to seee, i posted an email on a site and the very next day it started getting SPAM!
-------------------- Leaper of Tall buildings.. If you find my posts divisive or otherwise snarky please ignore them. If you do not know how then PM me about it and I will demonstrate. Posts: 5274 | From: Im a nowhere man | Registered: Jul 2001
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This is just my gut talking to me and I'm probably totally off base. But, I've noticed recently an increase in Netscape and Hotmail e-mail addresses. Also, nick names and lack of real names in the signature files seems to have increased.
I'm glad to see the new folk, but at the same time, I want to know who I'm talking to.
I and a select few 'Heads began to receive a lot of unwelcome spam. At first, I thought maybe it was done through a scraper program going through the usual bulletin boards and newsgroups. But, after some conversations via e-mail with a few 'Heads, it seems someone is playing with us. I don't appreciate being subscribed to a bunch of porn sites.
Then, there was "Kenny." I don't know if he was real or not. I'm still scratching my head on that one.
I don't know. Maybe I'm just getting paranoid.
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-------------------- "Don't change horses in midstream, unless you spot one with longer legs" bronzeo oti Jack Davis 1410 Main St Joplin, MO 64801 www.imagemakerart.com jack@imagemakerart.com Posts: 1549 | From: Joplin, MO | Registered: Mar 2000
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I agree and disagree. I've had my hotmail address for some years now and I don't normally give my regular address out because by the time it fills up with Spam, I change ISPs.
-------------------- HotLines Joey Madden - pinstriping since 1952 'Perfection, its what I look for and what I live for'
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glenn rest you little head....you AINT THE ONLY ONE!!! ive been getting spammed for the last year in my hotmail account with stuff i dont even look at or go near, so has my wife, her sister, my brother in law in tenn. my icq is inundated with sex sites and web cam sites,i just add to ignore list. my regular email is getting more like my hotmail latly. i think its just the spammers tapping into so called new markets.... they have pretty well gotten no responses from all the hotmail stuff they did so now they moved into reg emails......getting your info is not that hard to do .......
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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IMHO There is no plot to get anyone. There is a sudden surge of spam email going out to everyone. It has nothing to to with any plot. I have a server that is deluged with attempts to hijack it as a spam server. one succesfull attempt used up my 256k band width for over an hour before it was stopped.
Likewise. there are many proggies around that will capture email addresses from web pages and forum posts. Some websites capture ur addresses on purpose. I posted a URL several weeks ago that showed you exactly what your computer gave out. You will be shocked to know that your computer gives out everything. Including ALL your email address in your address book... So, if you keep an outlook address book you may be used to SPAM yer closest friends.
ive learned this because our server host spends way too much time and money keeping his list of IP numbers safe from abuse. He spends way to much time at seminars learning to protect his stuff from the bandwidth thieves.
Also, network solutions has your email addresses posted if u own a website and it is no secrete that network solutions list was/is compromised. We had an info URL listed on Network solutions that was never used and we got SPAMMED to that too. There is a company here in my town that is a big time SPAMMER. he used to operate a VCR repair shop (its a front now) . gives lessons on how to buy and sell email and SPAM.
And more, you can goto conventions and buy 16 million fresh email addresses and software for about $50 bux to send out SPAM. All without going thru a local email server. Then u can buy new updated email addressses harvested weekly. Its the latest get fast rich pyrimid scheme. Selling cd's of email addresses. the same lists goes around thousands of times. IT only takes seconds to capture all the address posted on this forum
Besides, this is an open public forum. I beleive there are dozons of people driving by reading everyday who never post or register. It makes no difference knowing them or reading a post under an assumed name.
Malicious surfers good enuf to cause problems will never be known anyway. They use proxy and annonymous servers that leave no trace.
HOW? this is one way
Friend A has a computer. Goes to or invites a geek to fix it. Geek sees AOL (or other isp)and logs on, creates an unknown subaccount or three. Uses these subaccounts to get free internet access. Geek is good and has as many as 100 sub accounts at any given time.. Ill bet at least one head here has at least one subaccount being used without thier knowledge.
Theres nothing here of value other than bandwidth. Script kiddies like turmoil. IF one is making hay here then he/she is happy to see any one react..
-------------------- Leaper of Tall buildings.. If you find my posts divisive or otherwise snarky please ignore them. If you do not know how then PM me about it and I will demonstrate. Posts: 5274 | From: Im a nowhere man | Registered: Jul 2001
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Its still puzzling for me. I post both my personal and business e-mail addresses. I've had my personal e-mail for just over a year. I've never had a problem until just a couple weeks ago. I've not had a single bit of spam on my 2.5 year old business address even now. If it were a spider or scraper program, I would have thought that both would had been hit.
Couple that with an e-mail from another 'Head that I'm not on good terms with (he thought I might be signing him up to various sites and asked me to stop), plus my discussion with two other people and it really makes me wonder.
quote: Also, nick names and lack of real names in the signature files seems to have increased.
I agree with Glenn and Roger as well with their observations. Recent history does appear to have produced a few participants that are not thorough in following the rules of Letterville registration. When using other related sites as a measuring device, this site is head and shoulders above the others in this regard, so I believe it could be much worse.
quote: I'm glad to see the new folk, but at the same time, I want to know who I'm talking to.
I have practically stopped all public posting on another board I use to participate on a daily basis for this very reason. (gee Glenn, guess which one ) If you take the time to publicly display your remarks, have the fortitude to sign your comments. Again, when looking at other related sites, Letterville sets a good example. Could it be improved upon; IMHO, you bet! Could it be worse; yep! Just go check out some of those other sites for confirmation.
-------------------- Bob Gilliland InKnowVative Communications Harrisburg PA, USA
"The U.S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself." Benjamin Franklin Posts: 642 | From: Harrisburg, PA, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Just to ease your mind Glen: Captain Ken is: Ken McTague, Owner of Concept Signs 64 Ward st. Salem MA 01970 1-978-745-5800 conceptsign@yahoo.com Founder of New England Letterheads, the group that brings you MASS MAYHEM!
-------------------- Ken McTague, Concept Signs 57 Bridge St. (route 107) Salem MA 01970 1-978-745-5800 conceptsign@yahoo.com http://www.pinheadlounge.com/CaptainKen
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"A wise man once said that, or was it a wise guy?" Posts: 2425 | From: Salem, MA | Registered: Apr 1999
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Is there anything wrong with an alias or nickname as long as full identity is stated in the signature info. If there is a real problem, I pretty sure my registration as well as others would have been kicked back to us a long time ago or just reset. The mayor can still easily do that..... I just choose to use an internet identity different than my more serious real character. It allows me a new and simple freedom, to add to my shrinking list. Personally, I like the nicknames, and they seem a lot easier to put with personalities than the real names. Just my opinion of course. Bronzeo (latin for bronze) Jack (think of all the meanings this has taken on)
-------------------- "Don't change horses in midstream, unless you spot one with longer legs" bronzeo oti Jack Davis 1410 Main St Joplin, MO 64801 www.imagemakerart.com jack@imagemakerart.com Posts: 1549 | From: Joplin, MO | Registered: Mar 2000
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quote: Is there anything wrong with an alias or nickname as long as full identity is stated in the signature info.
I agree Jack.
One of the other problems is when a new person comes aboard and they don't follow through either from just not paying attention or honest ignorance. If they ask a question or respond in a certain way that can be taken negatively, there has been a tendancy on our part (our = old timers) to jump on the new guy. In my eyes, this has been due in part to some things that happen in the background and what we see happening on other BB's. As the saying goes, "Once burned, twice shy."
I just want to make sure we don't scare away any new folk, but at the same time make things as difficult for potential troublemakers to remain anonymous.
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A couple posts down you were saying something about getting spammed alot litely?This is why I didn't post my home e mail address.As for scaring away newbies I think there would be alot more if people would help instead of flaming them,Everyone has to start somewhere and if you don't ask,you don't learn.Here's my info. Madd Artist=Steve Spiry owner Madd Artist Signs maddartist@hotmail.com Glenn if ya want my real email I'll send it to ya Steve
-------------------- "I can draw anything but unemployment" Steve Spiry Madd Artist Murals&Signs Brandon,Mb. Canada Posts: 66 | From: Brandon,Mb. Canada | Registered: Jul 2001
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I use a hotmail account so as when the cable goes down....or if I switch ISPs,,,,,, I still have my same ole' address.
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Maybe when a user registers, he or she must read, sign and agree to a "terms and conditions" document. That all the rules are put up front. That way you can just keep adding rules to the document and everyone will know what they are. Just my 2 cents...
-------------------- AirbrushBobby.com Clearwater, FL The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing.1Cor1:18 “The wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Jesus Christ our Lord”Rom6:23 Posts: 505 | From: Clearwater Florida USA | Registered: Feb 1999
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We prefer posters register under their real name. There are some of you, especially PinHeads, that are known by their nickname in everyday life. Guys like Bobbo, Wizard, Lil Toot...you get the idea. Their nicks are well known in the industry and I have no problem with those people using their nicks, as long as a signature is in place. The same applies to a few longtime Letterville Chat users.
Kenny remains a mystery. Like many of you, we suspected he might be a ghost. There is an actual Kenny Thomas listed in the phone book, but when I called, his wife assured me Kenny had nothing to do with our business. Kenny has never painted a sign in his life and makes his living as a auctioneer.
It's no secret that some of you have real problems with each other. In any close knit group, this happens. We can't force you all to love one another, but we can demand you keep your personal wars off this BB and Letterville. Take it outside, or better yet....try to solve your differences and at least agree to disagree.
I don't believe any friend of Letterville would ever resort to nasty tricks similar to what Glen discribes. It's not only malicious, but in the long run, it is stupid.
We're not computer geeks by any means, but monitoring this BB for the last 6 years has taught us a few things. All IPs are recorded, we call many of you personally, and sooner or later we may even show up at your door. I'm sure we've been fooled a few times, but sooner or later, the truth comes out. Why risk one's reputation and waste valuable time on fraud when there is so much we can do to help each other?
-------------------- Steve Shortreed 144 Hill St., E. Fergus, Ontario Canada N1M 1G9 519-787-2673
I'm only willing to read other folks e-mail if there is some really juicy and funny stuff in it. Hehehe.
Just to make sure I'm clearly understood, this thread was not directed at you or anyone in particular. I'm glad to see you here and hope you'll hang around. This is just something that has been bothering me for a while and I'm getting it off my chest.
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when i first entered my details on the 'new improved' bb i figured that by using our shop name meant that devo or I could both use it, and just sign our names at the bottom, saves him being seen as 'gail' i had our full details in the signature at that time, phone nubers, the lot!
then sumone asked a question about a program which i answered respectfully, and withing 1 hour of my post, i didnt get an e-mail... i got a phone call from a person very upset/concerned about my reponse
now i figured that a 'mate' had needed info, so i freely told what i knew in 'my experiance' then i have a 'total stranger' ring me, interupt my work (dont ya hate that!) and expect me to explain myself to him..... i dont think so!!!
i changed my signature file, i told steve cause i thought he had a right to know, he said it didnt make him happy, but that he understood.
i know how easy it is to find out who sumone is and that there is more than enough ways with just a little effort to contact anyone... but i dont need to make it any easier
e-mails i can handle... i know where the delete button is but the intrusion into what is esentialy a friends conversation, albet in a public place, i think was rude
i know i could have just hung up... but i got mad, and so wasted over an hour of my work day justifying my personal opinion
steve mentioned that sum folks nicknames are very much their identity, i'd agree especialy as he noted the ol'chat pals... we've known each other as that for years, so when i think of linda i say 'silver eagle', mayo will always be 'empy' and i cant call dave anything other than 'appi' it just doesn't fit in my mouth or my keyboard
glen your not alone in the spam wars, we get hundreds weekly from places we've never been... just part of the landscape im afraid
anyhoo i'm off
cheers gail
-------------------- Gail & Dave Hervey Bay Qld Australia
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