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Has anybody found a way to paint,print or attach a logo to those cheap nylon umbrellas that the elcheapo shops sell from China I have had a request but no luck so far nothing seems to want to stick to the rotten thing Heeeeelp
-------------------- Ian Wilson Signmaker Retired 3 Panorama Drive Toowoomba Queensland Australia may all your troubles be little ones. The man that never make a mistake never makes anything. Posts: 656 | From: Toowoomba Queensland Australia | Registered: Nov 1998
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Ian Try this: international@stahls.com From Australia the nubmer is: Phone: 586-772-5551 Fax: 586-772-6237 Stahls sells cutable Heat transfer materials. One is a vinyl, made specifically to be heat pressed onto nylon. It is called 'Gorilla Grip'...you will love it! Good Luck, Sue
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Never printed umbrella's. Printed other nylon products. Used a product called nylobond. I'll check it out tomorrow (I guess that would be later today) and let you know. Used Gorrila Grip before. Sticks when nothing else will. My work partner, Bernie has printed umbrella's. He's off work due to back surgery. I'll get him to bump this up with what he knows when he gets back in a week or so.
-------------------- Dave Johnson Saltsburg, PA
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Hi Ian, interesting topic. I have tried heat pressing "videoflex" onto nylon sports bags, but it was not successfull, thanks for the tip on "Gorillagrip" I have a sample but have never tried it. Wonder what the time, temp, pressure, combinations are? I have also screenprinted onto the nylon sports bags with ASI "Nyleink" supplied by Gabba Screenprint Suppies in Brisbane. Works OK but dries very fast, you need to have the matching retarder and thinners to slow it down and thin it. Altogether rather expensive unless there is a sufficient quantity to buy it in. I have also had some success with regular water based screen print inks using a "cold cure" additive (like a catalist) and also adding nylon printing addative to the ink. This is my preferred method for nylon and synthetic fabric garments. It works really good on them. Using the same combination on nylon sports bags does work but the scuff resistance is not as good as I would like it to be. On umbrellas it would probably be OK as they do not have the same sort of rough useage that a bags has. The main problem with these type of materials is not so much the nylon but the waterproof coating that is applied to it. It is just not supposed to allow anything to stick to it, and seems to acomplish this rather well. Generally these days I try to steer clear of anything that has waterproofing treatments. It could be difficult to brush these inks as they do not flow very well unless thinned significantely in whick case they tend to lose their opacity if going light on dark background (most umbrellas are black). I will be interested to see what other comments come up on this as it is a situation that has bedevilled me for years. Best of Luck!!
-------------------- Badges2 is Bob Wright from Bundy Badges Screenprinting located in Bundaberg Queensland Australia (The land of OZ)& Dad to Katie, The Kookaburra Bird. badges@interworx.com.au Posts: 69 | From: Bundaberg, Qld. Australia | Registered: Oct 1999
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Ian, I,ve screenprinted on nylon umbrellas before. I believe you' d need a certain ink like they use on nylon jackets. preferably something that air driesand the setup was kinda funky cause I had to open them to set them up on the press. Then had them laying all over the place drying. Plus it was just a one color setup which made it easy. This was for a golf tournament and they actual came out great. But I think Screenprinting is your best bet. Good luck!
-------------------- Roger DiNofa Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 147 | From: Hattiesburg, MS | Registered: Feb 2002
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The best ink I have ever seen for printing on nylon is caled Nylobag-NB (manufactured by SERICOL) Two-part system, cures at low temperature. Lovely product.
-------------------- Jon Aston MARKETING PARTNERS "Strategy, Marketing and Business Development" Tel 705-719-9209 Posts: 1724 | From: Barrie, ON, CANADA | Registered: Sep 2000
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I have found that regular plastisol ink mixed with a product called "nylobond" added to it works on just about anything nylon. I print the open umbrella panel, then use a flash unit to "cure" the ink. I have also used the "GorillaGrip" it works very well.
-------------------- Michael Clanton Clanton Graphics/ Blackberry 19 Studio 1933 Blackberry Conway AR 72034 501-505-6794 clantongraphics@yahoo.com Posts: 1737 | From: Conway Arkansas | Registered: Oct 2001
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The trouble with Plastisol and additives is heat...nylon doesn't like heat. "Flash cure!" you might reply, but you will be risking less-than-durable prints.
-------------------- Jon Aston MARKETING PARTNERS "Strategy, Marketing and Business Development" Tel 705-719-9209 Posts: 1724 | From: Barrie, ON, CANADA | Registered: Sep 2000
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I specialize in work for the awning industry, and occasionally I get an EZup canopy to do graphics on. They are nylon and I have found a great ink to use,.....11000 series Multi Plastic Ink, from TW Graphics Group, 7220 East Slauson Ave. City of Commerce, California 90040. Phone,213-721-1400.
This ink is a one part type,not an epoxy. Use it straight from the can, it may be thinned down to brushing consistency also.Special thinner required, ask them about that.
-------------------- James Caley JCI Int'l 655 State College #19 Fullerton, CA USA 92831 jamez31@msn.com 714-773-9048 Posts: 16 | From: 655 state College #19, Fullerton CA USA 92831 | Registered: Feb 2002
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PS; to Multi Plastic ink;......it air dries in half an hour!!!
-------------------- James Caley JCI Int'l 655 State College #19 Fullerton, CA USA 92831 jamez31@msn.com 714-773-9048 Posts: 16 | From: 655 state College #19, Fullerton CA USA 92831 | Registered: Feb 2002
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