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I dont letter with brushes much in recent years, but occasionaly I have to. Does anyone know of a brand of quill that does not "eject" a hair with almost every stroke? It's very annoying to pallete Your quill , raise it to the work and see 2 hairs sticking out, or make a nice letter, then find a hair imbedded in the letter somewhere!
I must admit that I don't take the best care of my quills, but this happens with brand new ones also. I have tried every brand available to me form the local supplier, but they ALL do it.
I do not remember this being a problem when I first started out in the business some 30 years ago.
-------------------- James Caley JCI Int'l 655 State College #19 Fullerton, CA USA 92831 jamez31@msn.com 714-773-9048 Posts: 16 | From: 655 state College #19, Fullerton CA USA 92831 | Registered: Feb 2002
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what the name of the brushes.....this way we know not to buy any.....hehehehehehehehe if you can find LANGNICKLES....1ST CHOICE. GRUMBACHER,..2nd....
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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Been using Raphael series 1655 for a few years. I get them from Rochester Art Supply in upstate NY. They work about the best of any I have tried, and that includes Scharff, Grumbacher, Art-Signs, and Langnickles. Pricey, but with care they seem to last forever.
-------------------- Bill Preston Fly Creek, N.Y. USA Posts: 943 | From: Fly Creek, N.Y. USA | Registered: Jan 2000
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Are you nice to em? Im not nice to my brushes...and that makes em shed. I push too hard on some of em..makin outlines on big graphics. It breaks the hairs at the base... Brushes seem to shed more these days no matter what. Clean well and oil ..I do this and it seems to add life.Oil new brushes before first use. I use mineral oil..Cheryl taught me that trick.It sorta acts as a cleaner too I useta would leave em dry..then clean with acetone,laquer thinner..that wipes em out in a hurry. I tried a few mack quills and have had good luck with em so far.I trimmed em about 30% to make outliners. Heres another trick I learned a long time ago. when ya trim a quill to make a liner....use a brand new brush and oil it well before you ever use it.Dont use old brushes.they shed really bad when ya trim em Hardener in paint raises the devil with brushes too.
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Langnickle, Scharff, Grumbacher and one that I never heard of before .....French Master! I've tried all of these and they are all the same for shedding hairs,.and I mean right away,.brand new!
I started off using Artsign and they were great!,.but I haven't seen them in years.I live in Southern California near LA and there are things you just can't get here anymore.
Thanks for the tip on the mineral oil BEFORE using,.I haven't tried that yet.
-------------------- James Caley JCI Int'l 655 State College #19 Fullerton, CA USA 92831 jamez31@msn.com 714-773-9048 Posts: 16 | From: 655 state College #19, Fullerton CA USA 92831 | Registered: Feb 2002
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Hey, we all shed hairs, just some do it sooner than others! Seems like all new brushes have to lose a few hairs to start, survival of the fittest,like. Up Canada way, Luco has been around for many years. Browns and Greys. Probably not as good as back in the day, but still a workhorse. John Hannukaine/Mack round ferrule synthetic brushes are fantastic! Stiff like Vodka, works so good on rough, pitted surfaces. The small ones are like paint pens, just write.
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I, like Bill Preston like the Raphael quills which were and probably still are imported by Steve Berman who used to own Chromatic. But since I own a full supply of Macks, I simply trim them down to make whatever size needed.
If your quill is properly cared FOR and prepped before its use when new, shedding hair shouldn't happen at least in a quill. But then again the manufacturers themselves have a quality control problem.
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From Fullerton it's an easy call to Willmington, or even drive over there and pick your own. Esoteric Sign Supply has probably the best stash of quality quills around and Rick Glawson loves to talk about why hairs fall out. 310-549-6622
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I agree with Rick. Esoteric Sign Supply would be the place to go. Oh Michael....about that baby oil. I spilled some black paint on our light carpet last week. It was OIL base enamel. OOPS. I only had a small amount of thinner left, so I saturated the spot with baby oil then warm soapy water..then more baby oil And can you believe it got it out!
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I have used most of the brands out there...I have finally settled for "French Masters". They seem to work the best for me. I like my "Old" Luco brushes. I buy my French Masters from Rick at Esoteric in So. Cal. I have a box full of old "Battle Field Brushes" that I can't seem to throw away...they have been good to me for a lot of years.
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I've heard you can take a hypodermic needle and squirt some type of glue in the ferrul when you first buy it.
For the old ones, I pulled my battle field brushes out and cleaned em in Roger's Rapid Orange flavored fluid and they are just like new! Surprised the dickens outta me! Jackson, give it a try dude, you'll be thoroughly amazed!
Mineral oil is the kindest oil to use, that I have tried.
Painting with the tips of the bristles instead of the heels, is another way to offer your brushes more longevity.
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nothin better then good old 10w NON-DERGENT MOTOR OIL.....penna oils are better....
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