In the short 4 months that I’ve been here in Lettleville, I have noticed a huge increase in the volume of SPAM that I am now receiving……………has anyone else noticed a similar trend with their repeated use of this BB?………Am I being stocked by SPAMMERS lurking in Letterville?
Or am I just paranoid?……………..but then again, just cause I’m paranoid, doesn’t mean, there’re not out to get me………….now I’m paranoid.
“Spam’s better in a can”……I just coined that, ….you can use it if you want…….you have my permission.
-------------------- John Martin Robson Pendragon Signs & Graphics Yellowknife,NT,Canada
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It's possible John, but they have to be gathering our e-mail addresses one by one. Our mailing list has never been and will never be for sale.
Spam is becoming a real headache here too. We own 3 domains and I often get 3 different copies of the same mail. It takes time to sort the Letterville e-mail from all the junk mail. And why am I getting so many letters about Viagara? What's with that?
We do know there is a CD out there with tons of sign shop e-mails. It sells for over $600. I have no idea how they collect their data, but I'm on the list so it annoys me as much as the rest of you.
Have you ever visited any other sign websites? I know there is at least one sign industry website that will rent their e-mail list to anyone with $1,000 dollars. This gets the renter a one time mailing. Is it possible websites can collect email addresses via cookies whenever we visit?
If you or anyone else can shed more light on this subject, please let us know. Spam may be legal but it is clogging up the system. Our suppliers who use spam need to know how we feel about it. And by the way, for about half that one time rental cost, s supplier can become a Merchant here in Letterville for a whole year!
-------------------- Steve Shortreed 144 Hill St., E. Fergus, Ontario Canada N1M 1G9 519-787-2673
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I feel invaded by a buiss. that sends me spam. I can't beleive they would do this, maybe they don't understand that they would be the last co. we would buy from (just due to the annoyance).
Oh well.
Roger P.S. someone have a "anti spam" software package ???
-------------------- Roger Bailey Rapid Tac Incorporated 186 Combs Dr. Merlin Oregon 97532 Posts: 3020 | From: Merlin Oregon | Registered: Dec 1998
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You won't ever get spammed by ND GRAPHICS. We will always ask your permission to send you news and/or promotional stuff via e-mail/snail-mail. We are also making a concerted effort to send you only the most relevant information to your business.
SPAM seems to be on the increase everywhere...I think they have some kind of software that crawls websites and harvests e-mail addresses you have posted.
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-------------------- Jon Aston MARKETING PARTNERS "Strategy, Marketing and Business Development" Tel 705-719-9209 Posts: 1724 | From: Barrie, ON, CANADA | Registered: Sep 2000
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yes jon aston I do thank you for asking if I would like e mail from nd graphics. It is the right thing to do. Just don t send any e mails trying to sell me viagra. I have enough of those all ready er I mean e mails selling me viagra.
-------------------- paul taylor pictougraph images new glasgow, nova scotia paultaylor42@hotmail.com Posts: 80 | From: nova scotia | Registered: Feb 2002
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PS If you are a Canadian VISITOR to Letterville, please click here.
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-------------------- Jon Aston MARKETING PARTNERS "Strategy, Marketing and Business Development" Tel 705-719-9209 Posts: 1724 | From: Barrie, ON, CANADA | Registered: Sep 2000
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No, this site is NOT the cause of you getting more spam.
There are spider programs that surf the net all day long looking for email address. Also, as i posted last week everytime you log on to "some" websites will harvest your entire life history and all email addresses from your computer. Your email address is sold to every spammer once you get onto a list.
Use email filters to stop spamming. Some email has a hidden script in it that informs the sender you opened it. Another confirmation of a valid email address.
If you reply to get unlisted or to stop a spamer you confirm your active email address.
You may have your email address listed as do not spam at a central registry. I dont have that adddress but, it will reduce the spam but not eliminate it.. Porn, and appendage enlargment spammers have no scruples.
Yes, there is a very noticable increase of spam all over the web in the past few months but it is NOT due to membership on letterhead.
Best way is to have a public amail address on a free site (hotmail) and a personal address you never post anywhere. Not even to your most trusted salesman.
Still you will not be free of spam. In fact I have a email addres i have never used. I didnt know it existed. It was full of spam.
Good luck
-------------------- Leaper of Tall buildings.. If you find my posts divisive or otherwise snarky please ignore them. If you do not know how then PM me about it and I will demonstrate. Posts: 5274 | From: Im a nowhere man | Registered: Jul 2001
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(Disclaimer: Please take into consideration WHILE reading this, that I DON'T know all the facts, but I do "know enough to get me into trouble" These are just things I've been told, overheard or believe may be possible.)
To address the topic of our addresses being swiped form Letterville... it is possible to download an entire website. If the creepy webcrawler out there can figure out this I am sure he can figure out how to filter out the particular data he desires from the basic html codes... our names and addresses. Using MS Excel and MS Word or similar programs can do this in minutes.
I haven't heard of any way to prevent this from happening. Even the pictures at websites that have a lock on the right click "Save As" feature are not protected if the user can locate the Temporary Internet File on his hard drive.
The term SPAM: I have used the term "Spam" to describe the junk e-mail I have received and "nasty-grams" from P-O'd posters here at the BB.
My definition of Spam was: If I didn't ask for it or want it, then it was "Spam".
I was told in a very single-viewed tone by someone here that apparently had NO tolerance for any amount of Ignorance (meaning not Stupid, just doesn't know or hasn't learned it yet.) that Spam was NOT junk or nasty e-mail. He felt VERY strongly about my misuse of this term. Due to his reaction to it, I looked it up to see if I was really making a Full Moon out of myself.
The first time I did this it said that: Spam was sending the multiple messages (1000's) to one particular e-mail address and flooding their InBox. (What I thought at that time was called Flaming)
Today I searched the term and it said this:
What is spam? Spam is flooding the Internet with many copies of the same message, in an attempt to force the message on people who would not otherwise choose to receive it. Most spam is commercial advertising, often for dubious products, get-rich-quick schemes, or quasi-legal services. Spam costs the sender very little to send -- most of the costs are paid for by the recipient or the carriers rather than by the sender.
There are two main types of spam, and they have different effects on Internet users. Cancellable Usenet spam is a single message sent to 20 or more Usenet newsgroups. (Through long experience, Usenet users have found that any message posted to so many newsgroups is often not relevant to most or all of them.) Usenet spam is aimed at "lurkers", people who read newsgroups but rarely or never post and give their address away. Usenet spam robs users of the utility of the newsgroups by overwhelming them with a barrage of advertising or other irrelevant posts. Furthermore, Usenet spam subverts the ability of system administrators and owners to manage the topics they accept on their systems.
Email spam targets individual users with direct mail messages. Email spam lists are often created by scanning Usenet postings, stealing Internet mailing lists, or searching the Web for addresses. Email spams typically cost users money out-of-pocket to receive. Many people - anyone with measured phone service - read or receive their mail while the meter is running, so to speak. Spam costs them additional money. On top of that, it costs money for ISPs and online services to transmit spam, and these costs are transmitted directly to subscribers.
One particularly nasty variant of email spam is sending spam to mailing lists (public or private email discussion forums.) Because many mailing lists limit activity to their subscribers, spammers will use automated tools to subscribe to as many mailing lists as possible, so that they can grab the lists of addresses, or use the mailing list as a direct target for their attacks.
(For more information about the origin of the term "spam", and the formal definitions of Usenet spam, see J.D.Falk's excellent Net Abuse FAQ)
Looks I was just ahead of time with my definition of Spam verses "the rest of the world's" ...whatever!
The I feel like I'm related to Glenn today (with the research) side of the Moon
-------------------- The Moon aka: Stefenie Harris Moonlight Designs Pollock Pines, CA learnin' somethin' new every day! stefenie@comcast.net Posts: 550 | From: Pollock Pines, CA, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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John, To limit, block or just plain "not see" the junk mail Spam you get look into the "junk mail" features in your e-mail software or set up a "rule" for the address of the sender and have it sent directly to your Trash Bin.
That's what I did for that Nasty-gram sender from here and for all the junk I'm getting since I forwarded my MoonlightDesigns@yahoo.com account to my personal e-mail account. I haven't seen any more sign related junk comming in on either account than normal.
I must share that since activating my junk mail feature I have been a much more happier side of the Moon.
-------------------- The Moon aka: Stefenie Harris Moonlight Designs Pollock Pines, CA learnin' somethin' new every day! stefenie@comcast.net Posts: 550 | From: Pollock Pines, CA, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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I hate spam!! I thought it was just me getting it... But when I saw this post, I thought I'm not the only one getting it, everyone is getting it too... The worst part is I have been getting alot of sales people calling me... Most the time I tell them they got the wrong number, or she or he died..... The worst part is they couldn't pernouce the name right??? Whats up with that??? Well, I hope this SPAM stops someday...
-------------------- Jaime Doyle Doyle Sign & Web Design RR1 Box 351-C Grampian, PA Posts: 79 | From: Grampian, PA | Registered: Oct 2001
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Just a thought--- what sort of settings do you all have on the security part of your internet connection? A lot of options in there. Go to start, settings, control panel, internet options-or something similar- and in there you should be able to raise your security level to the point that spam will be a rare annoyance.
One drawback that I know of-- sometimes attachments to e-mail that you might want wont come through. Then you have to reset in order to pick up on them. A minor thing, all things considered. FWIW, spam is almost non-existent for me.
Also, somewhere on your hard drive there should be a cookie folder. Sometimes it pays to empty the cookie jar, since most of what is in there is for somebody else's convenience, and not yours.
-------------------- Bill Preston Fly Creek, N.Y. USA Posts: 943 | From: Fly Creek, N.Y. USA | Registered: Jan 2000
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I think it's probably the spidering programs gathering the email addresses, as was suggested.
Since a lot of you have your email typed out in your signature file, it is displayed for every message you type - making it real easy for these things to collect your address.
You might want to try removing your email address from your sig. People can still email you by clicking on the little icon above each message.
I can't say I don't get any spam, but it's maybe less than six a year.
I also follow some of the other suggestions about keeping spam to a minimum.
-------------------- Bob Darnell London, Ontario, Canada
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I maintain 2 domains and 4 email addresses (between personal and business)and I can say that yes there has been a great increase in the amount of spam received in the past 4-6 months. However the address listed here is an to older domain name ( I've been meaning to update it) that I own and while I maintain it and maintain links to it, it is not actively in use and I receive almost no spam addressed to this account.
-------------------- Mike O'Neill
It has yet to be proven that intelligence has any survival value. - Arthur C. Clarke
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