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old paint
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this goes along with the automotive paint and signs.....but wanted to make a couple other points here. seems to run in cycles the work you do...this week and last week ...signs on alum....used up 2 4x10 .040 sheets. along with that they want odd color backgrounds. got a 2x3 A-FRAME and she wanted pink background and doing 2 2x2 with lime green. the pink i went and bought PINK in spray cans. now on new alum. i wipe down with a/e reducer, lightly sand with 150, wipe again with reducer then spray with one light coat then go back over for a 2 coat hi gloss. easier then and cheaper then layin down vinyl. on the 2 2x2 the lime green is not avail able in spray cans. i have a bunch of a/e paint from a body shop(now this stuf is 4-5 yrs old, dont let em tell you paint wont last in a can)and just happen to have some lime green....ill thin with reducer spray it....and be done and letter with black vinyl 2-3 hours after its painted.

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joe pribish-A SIGN MINT
2811 longleaf Dr.
pensacola, fl 32526
850-637-1519
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roger bailey
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Hey OP, this must take some time, right??

Have you kept track of your time, weighed against the time and materials of vinyl ??

I always ask that, some folks don't measure they're time, guess they don't put a value on it.

Roger

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Roger Bailey
Rapid Tac Incorporated
186 Combs Dr.
Merlin Oregon
97532

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time is reletive....hehehehe vinyl to apply to large areas just for color...takes more time then paint, and also i would have to buy a roll of lime green....like i would need it again in the next 5 years....no roger...iam faster with paint...and paint will look better(cause iam also good with a spray gun/can)hahahahahahaha and rapid tack dont make the job go any faster...(for painting).......

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joe pribish-A SIGN MINT
2811 longleaf Dr.
pensacola, fl 32526
850-637-1519
BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND

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Hey Joe, lets look at that(faster at paintin).

Lets say the color you needed was right there in your van(in both paint and vinyl).

So lets paint;
1-get the paint, shake a couple minutes(or stir),
now get a strainer(or hey, use an old nylon stalkin yer wife ripped), pour paint in gun,mix in some reducer,hardner,etc.
2-now sand(or somehow etch substrate).
3-now clean substrate.
4-begin sprayin paint,first coat,then let tack-up, second coat/and tack-up, final coat.
5-now go find somethin else to do untill its all dry, like "clean the gun",put da paint away,clean yer mask,etc.

I know from lots of experiance, the above procedure is going to take most profesionals aprox.1/2 to 3/4 of an hour.

Now lets vinyl it;

1-get the roll out,(no need to plot anything)
measure,cut.(just a solid 24"x24" right?)
2-clean substrate(paper towell/Rapid Tac)
wet substrate(Rapid Tac) remove liner,apply,squeegee first piece,apply,squeegee second piece, wipe off.
3-now begin lettering.

Now, once again "from experiance" this procedure would take a profesional aprox. 15 minutes.

Sound right to you Joe ????

Roger

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Roger Bailey
Rapid Tac Incorporated
186 Combs Dr.
Merlin Oregon
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I letter a lot of sprint cars. The wings are made of aluminum. Most of the driver/owners don't want to pay an autobody shop the $$$ it cost to etch and paint the aluminum side panels on the wings. The wings I do are mostly 21"x52". I offer the service of laying a piece of (whatever color) vinyl on the side boards. Then I letter right over it. Sorry Roger but I do this dry. Each board has about 20 rivets on them. the moisture doesn't let me pack the vinyl around the rivets.

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Rob Larkham
Rob Larkham Signs & Lettering
21 Middlefield Road
Chester, MA. 01011

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Hey Rob, if your "makin the job work well" thats what counts.

Someday me or someone else will come up with something for those rivits!!

Roger

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Roger Bailey
Rapid Tac Incorporated
186 Combs Dr.
Merlin Oregon
97532

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roger you didnt read well...I DIDNT HAVE A ROLL OF LIME GREEN VINYL......hehehehehehhe and i had a qt of lime green paint, a/e automotive paint.(was dry and i put the vinly on it within 2hours)
lets see...roll of 20 x 10 yrd lime green vinyl...cheap stuff $20 good stuff $42. the 2 signs come to a grand total of $48 dollars $24 each......and i got the money in my pocket.....not givin it to the vinyl supplier......

[ February 20, 2002, 11:13 PM: Message edited by: old paint ]

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joe pribish-A SIGN MINT
2811 longleaf Dr.
pensacola, fl 32526
850-637-1519
BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND

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Hey Joe,I did read it right.

You need to read mine again, I said "lets say you had the green in paint AND VINYL right in your van".
It was a hypothetical rendering Joe He he he he he he he he !! [Cool]

Roger

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Roger Bailey
Rapid Tac Incorporated
186 Combs Dr.
Merlin Oregon
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sorry your right....

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joe pribish-A SIGN MINT
2811 longleaf Dr.
pensacola, fl 32526
850-637-1519
BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND

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