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That's what I had a moron tell me last week. I DO carve in the round, and, as any real carver can tell you, it's MUCH easier carving in the round than to get the same effect with relief carving. You'd be amazed at how many in-the-round carvers can't pull off a good relief carving. Getting all of the depth and perspective with a relief carving is infinitely more difficult than carving in-the-round, so don't let some moron deflate you with stupid comments about what "real" carving is.
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That would be a naked fat guy with a chisel.
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Isn't that what Michael Jackson is singing about Billie Jean?
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Came from an email. Someone (a supposed in-the-round carver) had visited our website. He'd not seen any of my full carvings because I have none posted there. It's a signage website, not a forum for my other artwork. His comment was based on the assumption that I didn't do in the round carvings. He was wrong, but I didn't respond to his email, but it did make me aware that aspiring relief carvers might think that the artform is somehow inferior. It's not. It's SUperior when properly executed. I'll be taking a few pics of my son's first large relief carving project in the next day or so. Two 8'x12' carvings with wildlife, trees, mountains, water...........all the usual norwesty schtuff. This project proved to me that Latigo has it naturally within him.
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Rob, in-the-round carving is carving an object completely..........360 degrees, as in a free standing statue, or a carousel horse.
Oops.........I meant, BOB, of course.
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I hope it's not too late to get serious about relief carving as I would like to share an idea.....Relief carving is done in 3 D imension. The problem is that you don't get the whole third D. You have actual length and height but you don't have the whole depth! Therefore a relief carver must relie on the same illusionary techniques as someone who creates a three dimensional scene in two dimensions. I have found that folks who are profecient in three dimensional presentations will succeed in presenting relief carvings. The best example I can think of is Mike Lavalee's first carving that is pictured in so many of the pression board ads...pretty good start, Mike!!!!! We can keep this going on a serious note if you wish or I'll take mine medium well, and I will carve in relief. Can I have an order of fries on the side? Joe, Makin Chips and Havin Fun!
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Hey....I know a shop down the road that excells in "undercutting"
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On several of my relief carvings that have been on the smaller side, I've eliminated the undercuts so I could make a mold and cast several others for differing uses.
I don't know how you feel about duplicate carvings, I like doing it only once.
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Rick, When you say you only like doing it once, are you talking about doing it once and then molding it so that you can pour another to be used on another sign? Piere, you 2? If The answer is yes, how many molds have you accumulated over the years and how often do you go to the well and cash in again? I always felt that through this process, you could really pay yourself over and over again for a job well done! Joe, Makin Chips and Havin Fun!
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Dad's gone to bed. He gets up at 4am, besides he was mad. I cool off faster. Anyway, I know he meant that he doesn't like to do them more than once. We've talked about this before. Some company wanted him to carve "Angel Headboards" for kids' beds and make moulds from the originals. He wouldn't do it. He doesn't like seeing his stuff reproduced. :^)
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I'm with you on that one Pierre! I was approached a while back to carve sign blanks that would be molded and sold to the industry....when I asked them about royalities they decided to look elseware. I was just wondering if anyone made molds of a carved aplique that could be used again and again on thair own designs. Francias Lestigney, from NY, who carves in mahogany, molded an aplique that he used on a tavern sign so he wouldn't have to make duplicate carvings for the other side....he has since used the same aplique on a diffrent sign! Gettin paid twice for your work sounds good to me! Hope you are feeling better Pierre! Joe, Makin Chips and Havin Fun!
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There's a fellow out here who hand carves and then casts copies. His name is Doug Stewart. He does excellent work, and his advertising is by word of mouth. He always has more business than he can handle, and he aint cheap.
He was based here (Concord) for a long time. Then he figured out that his business was not dependent on location. So he bought a place on Lake Berryessa. Now he can carve out by the lake in good weather.
He told me he was too much of a perfectionist to have to make signs over when they fail for whatever reason. So he carves a master and gives the customer a copy. Then if a replacement is needed, he casts another one and finishes it.
I doubt that he does this for every single job, but it does make great sense for things like golf course signs that take a lot of sun and water and possibly ball strikes.
I admire people who really have their act together the way Doug does.
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