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Anyone use Everwood HDU? My supplier changed to Everwood from PB. Its a little cheaper but I have noticed that it takes alot more paint to cover it. Are the cells bigger? At first we used Jay cookies as a primer and then we read about not using a primer. Now I'm thinking of going back to primer. We have only one supplier that will deliver in our area so a new supplier wont help. thanks!
-------------------- Robert Davis Sticky Sam's Signs (828)488-1715 stickysam@dnet.net The Great Smoky Mountains Bryson City, N.C. Posts: 133 | From: Bryson City, N.C. US | Registered: Jul 2000
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I just had a call this afternoon from the main rep for Everwood HDU about samples for my upcoming meet. He said that their formula has been changed within the last four months and now has the equivilant cell structure of SignFoam and Precision Board. If you have HDU that is very rough and gritty, you may have some of the older stock. He is shipping me some samples as we speak as I told him about the problems that you mentioned are the same as I had experinced also. When (if) you go back to your supplier, try to find out when the HDU was actually manufactured. If it was over 4 months ago, tell him you would prefer the new formula before you purchase any more from them.
-------------------- John Smith Kings Bay Signs (Retired) Kissimmee, Florida Posts: 822 | From: Central Florida - The Sunshine State | Registered: Jan 2000
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I got my samples about two months ago. My distributor, Southeastern Sign Supply, told me the stuff had be reformulated.
Unfortunately, IMHO, it was only marginally better. It is still coarse compared to Precision Board and SignFoam. It is also tougher to blast and did not hold a sharp definition.
Perhaps the stuff John gets will be better than what I got. I hope so.
But until they do, I'm sticking with PB and SF. While Everwood may be a little less expensive, I can't afford the additional labor expense.
(To the folks at Everwood, please take that as a critique and not a criticism)
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I just went a weeklong bout with Jay Cookes primer. I would not recommend in for carved jobs as it takes 5 times longer to apply than WSF88WB and is horrible to sand (sanding almost like thick latex paint). I would also not recommend it for anything that needs to be masked as the masking pulls it off of the HDU a week after drying. The HDU was cleaned very well. My supplier actually changed to it at the request of a sandblaster of HDU. Probably easier to apply by brush for that purpose. It ruined my panels (barely salvagable).
-------------------- "Don't change horses in midstream, unless you spot one with longer legs" bronzeo oti Jack Davis 1410 Main St Joplin, MO 64801 www.imagemakerart.com jack@imagemakerart.com Posts: 1549 | From: Joplin, MO | Registered: Mar 2000
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Robert, i havent seen their new improved board, but the old stuff gave me some headaches! Between roughness, unsquare sheets, & variations in thickness.
In my opinion the time spent to get the product prepped is not worth the $50 savings. SF & PB seem to be more dense, with smaller cell structure.
My supplier was blowing out some sheets for $100 last month. I did not bite! I will ask for a sample of the new board.
I know they are merchants here, and hopefully our feedback will help their product.
One thing i would recomend is give us an extra 1/2". Like SF and PB do. Many times the edges need to be trimmed to remove scratches and dents from shipping. Alot of our customers would complain if their 4x8 was 47"x95".
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