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I once again have an older cube van (white) with paint that has chalky paint. Washed it with long handled brush and soap- an hour later I walked by the bucket and it looked like it was full of milk from the chalk. I suggested that the lawyer/owner (scary already) have it acid washed and he did. I can still rub chalk off with my finger. Anyone have any experience with this? Roger- tried your prep, didn't work-save the wear & tear on your keyboard. Thanks Gene
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lots of time those old vans have a funky kinda of paint on the roof that needs to be all but sanded to get the chalk off them,sometimes I have even seen fleet managers use house trailer sealer for the roofs which chalks horribly. Could the roof of the van be the source?
-------------------- fly low...timi/NC is, Tim Barrow Barrow Art Signs Winston-Salem,NC Posts: 2224 | From: Winston-Salem,NC,USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Gene, what exactly is the scope of the job? Letter or strip this van?? Sounds as though the paint has oxidized terrribly. Did anybody try scrubbing this thing with a good 'ol scrub brush and Comet?? Sometimes that will get the dead stuff off. If not, wet sand and buff.
P.S. Never heard of acidwashing is a case like this?? Did it do anything?? Was the vehicle neturalized after the acid bath?? (Good Idea)!!
Keep us posted on any results.
-------------------- Mark Neurohr "Ernest" Paintin' Place 141 Sunnyside Road Kittanning, PA 16201
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Chevy cube van? Van with a fiberglass body attached to the rear? They are gel-coated, like boats. We had these in the Air Force and no amount of washing, rubbing compound or wax would get rid of it. (believe me) The only thing that would restore the finish was a new finish, ie: scuff and paint.
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1st.option : Oh c'mon guys we all know that 1-Shot either rolled or sprayed evenly on the entire van would cure the problem. I find that 1-Shot is the cure for everything.
2nd.option : Cover the entire van with vinyl and for those contours use a heat gun.
Note: Do not tell owner his van needs to repainted at a paint shop as he already knows that!
-------------------- HotLines Joey Madden - pinstriping since 1952 'Perfection, its what I look for and what I live for'
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Ive delt with this problem more than once. tried all types of cleaners. The one that worked for me was 409 bathroom/kitchen cleaner. You still have to scrub it hard but it cuts the oxidation and cleans up pretty good. Another way is to have it buffed out by a body shop. Good luck and I hope my info works for you....after all im just a "visitor"..........
-------------------- Kevin L. Kleinhans Alma Signs (Signs Be Me) Alma, Michigan Posts: 139 | From: Alma, MI USA | Registered: Dec 1999
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Gene, you might try power buffing a small section and see if that takes you down to good paint. If it does, either sell him a buffing job, or better yet have him take it to an auto detail shop. If buffing doesn't clean up the old paint, your customer is stuck with a repaint if he expects his lettering to stick. In either case, the ball is in the customer's court, as it's not your responsibility to try to letter an unsatisfactory finish.
-------------------- Jerry Mathel Retired Grants Pass, Oregon signs@grantspass.com Posts: 916 | From: Grants Pass, OR USA | Registered: Dec 1998
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My father in law had what I thought was a grey chevy pickup. I took some "Super Glaze" made by The Wax Shop to it and voila!, the truck ended up being black. This stuff works great on chalky oxidation. You can buy this stuff at Auto Zone for about $8.00 bottle. It only took one for the full size truck.
My 2¢ wprth. Good luck!
-------------------- John Cordova Gitano Design Studio Albuquerque, NM
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I've never seen paint stick too well to Super Glaze. I use the stuff all the time but wouldn't dare paint or stripe over it. With a wax and grease remover I would think you would be right back to the chalky layer, I'd re-paint the van.....
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Gave up on scrubbing this crap. Customer wants lettering. I give it to them no warranty. We clean the surface with Rapid Remover and Rapid Tac. Expensive but seems to work. The lettering ain't gonna stick for long unless you are lucky. Just did a tanker that was repainted. They didn't even clean the thing before it was sent to us. Do you know what 5 years of dust covered in paint looks like? Did you ever try to stick vinyl to something like that?? Warn the customer and no warranty for crappy paint jobs.
-------------------- Kevin Landry KnL Signs Halifax NS Posts: 314 | From: Canada | Registered: Feb 2000
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