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Hello, I'm Looking for a clipart of that little guy peeing on ford, chevy, etc. logo's, Any help where I can locate it would be appreciated. Thanks and Happy New Year!!!!!!!!!!
-------------------- Todd Land Land Designs Bridgewater, NY tland@twcny.rr.com Posts: 66 | From: Bridgewater ,ny | Registered: Oct 1999
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It must be California. You see the little Bart Simpson images doing their thing on vehicle windows, mostly pickups, all the time. We never did them and have no idea who did, however. Vic G
-------------------- Victor Georgiou Danville, CA , USA Posts: 1746 | From: Danville, CA , USA | Registered: Dec 1998
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damn....you know one of the reasons waterson quit drawing calvin was he didn't want to license him out for crapola....and this rip off of his art is the ultimate in crapola....not to rip you guy....but if you can't draw calvin then maybe you're in the wrong business
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John Zant Sign of the Times Lafayette, Louisiana signmojo@cox-internet.com 337-233-9824 Posts: 57 | From: Lafayette, Louisiana, USA | Registered: Jul 2000
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Interesting! I just found a guy on eBay selling vector images that include the pee(Calvin)kid. Send me your email address Todd and I will forward the info to you.
-------------------- Harvie Loomis Loomis Signs 76 Cortright Hill Road Newark Valley, NY 13811 (607)642-8616 tozrox@frontiernet.net Posts: 47 | From: Newark Valley, NY 13811 | Registered: Jul 2000
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we got em here....prayin in front of a cross....
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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When I first started out in the biz and was selling alot of the small stuff (cause ya cant cut much big stuff with a STIKA - hehehehe), my best seller was an alien peeing on the 'peein bootlegged calvin'.. I had one on my truck and man, some people loved it but the peein calvin fans were pretty upset over it.
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Mike Pipes stickerpimp.com Lake Havasu, AZ mike@stickerpimp.com Posts: 8746 | From: Lake Havasu, AZ USA | Registered: Jun 2000
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As a long time follower of Calvin and Hobbes, I thought I'd add to this post. Waterson was extreamly unhappy working within the rules of a syndicate cartoonist. I think Waterson was one of the first cartoonist to present his drawing in larger odd shaped formats (I believe The Family Circle does too).
Here's part of an announcement I found:
He (Waterson) declines fabulous wealth by refusing to merchandise his characters.
"Besides being well drawn and well written, 'Calvin and Hobbes' is unusual," says NCS president Mell Lazerus. "It captured everybody's interest overnight."
In a letter to newspaper editors announcing his retirement, Watterson stated: "This is not a recent or easy decision, and I leave with some sadness. My interests have shifted, however, and I believe I've done what I can do within the constraints of daily deadlines and small panels. I am eager to work at a more thoughtful pace, with fewer artistic compromises.
Calvin and Hobbes Nov 18, 1995 - Dec 10, 1995
I would encourage any of you to buy on of the many books out there and enjoy this FANTASTIC Cartoonist and the adventures of Calvin and his little buddy Hobbes!!
-------------------- Mark Neurohr "Ernest" Paintin' Place 141 Sunnyside Road Kittanning, PA 16201
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Bill Watterson is a genius. I own all of his books, and look forward to seeing more if he decides to publish again. My ten year old son recently discovered my books, and now enjoys the wit and wisdom of Calvin and Hobbes. Bill probably shudders everytime he sees one of the peeing Calvins. I can safely say, I have never put one on a car.
-------------------- Maker of fine signs and other creative stuff. Located at 109 N. Cumberland ave. Harlan, Ky. 40831 606-837-0242 Posts: 4172 | From: Ages-Brookside, Ky. Up the Holler... | Registered: Jul 1999
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I've never seen A calvin peeing , Ive seen just a small guy peeing. Maybe Bill Matterson should take legal action against these people making these decals ,hopefuly they won't prosecute me for making a FREE one for my 10 year old nephew. Have a Happy and safe New Year!!!!!!!!
-------------------- Todd Land Land Designs Bridgewater, NY tland@twcny.rr.com Posts: 66 | From: Bridgewater ,ny | Registered: Oct 1999
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Just the type of gift I want to give my nephews. Rude ripped art. Boy. My brother sure would be proud that I put almost 30 years experience into to such an uplifting gift for his sons. I am sure that he would proudly parade it around his neighborhood... Maybe they would call me "Uncle Peabody"... Wow...
Have a great one!
-------------------- Bruce Bowers
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"Things work out best for the people who make the best of the way things work out." - Art Linkletter
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You know, I'll probably get flamed for this but oh ****ing well!
Bruce, it's that type of attitude that keeps more people from joining Letterville, I'm sure you've never sold or done anything that anyone else here wouldn't approve of.
With Neighbors like you, the cost of residency should be free, that way its easier to move when the grouchy old self richeous man next door decides your grass is 1/8" too tall!!
In simpler terms, get a grip, there's a demand for that product and many more like it and someone's going to fill that demand, weather you, I or anyone else likes it.
Just a note, no, I do not sell them, but I'm not going to put my self on a pedistal over someone else that does.
Flame away guys...
-------------------- Shawn Setzer Signs by Shawn 826 Hwy 47 East, Troy, MO
Posts: 241 | From: Troy, MO, USA | Registered: Jan 1999
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A person works hard to develope a Charactor and to see it Sliced, Diced, and Infringed apon is more then a slap in the face.
Let say that you done a beautiful line drawing of your Wife/Girlfriend (Who ever) and I desided that a little humour to it was to add a Hitler mustache and sell it or give it away on the market. I don't think you would laugh along with me on my decision to alter your work.
Still if this is a project of someone as a freebie then Draw up a Cartoon charactor and scan it in the system to Cut/Punch out. At least you'll know that it's done by yourself and you own this one.
So you see I think I will side with Bruce on his judgement of this..
Happy trails and painting.
-------------------- Stephen Deveau RavenGraphics Insinx Digital Displays
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Gee's Next time I use the Bullboard I'll be sure to check the legal laws and think of the morals of a piece of clipart I need! This site has been a great help for my sign business and I'm sure for others , It's a shame someone has to be insulted or judged when asking for a little help finding a piece of clipart. Thanks again to all of you helped in my search , my morally corrupt nephew thanks you to , "thank god kids have a sense of humor!"
see ya!
-------------------- Todd Land Land Designs Bridgewater, NY tland@twcny.rr.com
If you looked up some of the old postings you would have seen that this board does stand up for copyright laws.
How about if you asked for some lettering style that is sold by a Merchant here.. Do you think it's fair to assume that it sould be given away for free?
We are Graphic Artists in our own rights and don't believe in plagiarism.
Sorry to sound so harsh, but property is property. We do value to work we sweat and toil from.
Happy trails and painting.
-------------------- Stephen Deveau RavenGraphics Insinx Digital Displays
Letting Your Imagination Run Wild!
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Judge not and yee shall not be judged. Not the case on this BB Todd, everyone has an opinion on how you should believe and act accordingly. But the only one I care about making happy is myself my family and wife. That's it. I live by my rules and mine only. I make them up as I go just like the government. Just laugh about it, I'm too busy minding my own business so I don't have time to sit in Judgment of others. That's what juries & God are for. I'm not either Oh by the way Todd did you ask for opinions? Maybe I missed that part of your letter.
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-------------------- Ronnie Conrad Augusta,Ga Posts: 374 | From: Augusta,Ga. | Registered: Aug 2000
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Todd I have a duck peeing on fords at work I will try and sent you a copy when I get back after the holidays he is quite a mean duck. I think as Jesus said you who be without sin are to be the ones that cast the first stone.
-------------------- Ian Wilson Signmaker Retired 3 Panorama Drive Toowoomba Queensland Australia may all your troubles be little ones. The man that never make a mistake never makes anything. Posts: 656 | From: Toowoomba Queensland Australia | Registered: Nov 1998
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I guess I must be better looking than I thought
-------------------- Ian Wilson Signmaker Retired 3 Panorama Drive Toowoomba Queensland Australia may all your troubles be little ones. The man that never make a mistake never makes anything. Posts: 656 | From: Toowoomba Queensland Australia | Registered: Nov 1998
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Hey Todd, do whatever ya want. There are so many self rightous persons who quote scriptures on this board its actually an inside joke!
If so many here worried about taking apart anothers artwork, they wouldn't be buying Fonts on CDs where the fonts came from old books and other hand letterers. Can ya see calling up the author and asking permission to use whatever artwork. I don't think so! Don't fall into a slump over these people who don't know jack bout earning a real living geez, if I listened to 1/2 the people here I'd my have to change my underwear twice a day.
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I don't cut those peeing guys for anyone because there is no money in cutting one. But when someone orders a couple thousand you can bet I won't worry about what anyone else thinks. Cheers all!
-------------------- Rob Larkham Rob Larkham Signs & Lettering 21 Middlefield Road Chester, MA. 01011
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what a hot topic ,, Calvin peein on a ford or a cross, then it gets brutal. I have just one opinion to add to this pile of PHD stuff here. some people think its perfectly alright to take someones work and profit by it. if stealing someones work or fonts or software is FINE and ok then I got a good one for you make a 4x8 Neon sign first without a deposit, then when the sign is done and before you collect someone comes in and steals it from you and then sells it to your customer doesnt. I think that the copyright laws are made for a reason, and I do beleive that there are many sign shops that have been sued by Warner Brothers, Disney, and Calvin and hobbs creators, I and applaude them for doing so. your an artist come up with your own original cartoon, Geez....
besides that Letterville to me is the best place I have been to on the internet, Ive learned more here then I have ever, and everyone is always willing to share, Way to go guys and gals... I will be a resident SOON.. and with great respect to all these talented artist....
Benji
-------------------- Benji McEntire Harrison Graphics/Signs of America Harrison, Arkansas 72601 signmaker@cox.com
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you right greg...got more churches here then fast food places....and i aint liein......i got one of the many..."ripoff, take off, reworked calvins" mine has a more cinister looking set of eyes....i just look at the people ....who ask for these....most live in a trailer and drive transcameros.....and live on 12 packs..and 48 pack on the weekends.....just my opinion...
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-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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Any of you ever paint a cartoon character on a race care or truck? Did you contact Warner Bros. or Disney? I bet not. To many hipocrates. When most of you were getting started you would have painted anything just to sink your teeth into it. We have all been there. I paint for a tow truck company who wants the Tazmanian Deveil on all his trucks. If I don't paint it he will go elsewhere. I've done 14 trucks for him in the past three years. Those trucks feed my kids nicely. Everything we do, someone has done it before. Very few are pioneers in this business. As someone said all our fonts have been rehashed and rehashed. Helvetica is Swiss and viesa-versa. Who gets the royalties, the helvetica guy or the swiss? If I see a sign in sign craft and like the layout but change the business name to suit my customer, am I ripping off the original artist? There are to many ways to argue this point and not many of them are black and white. Yes, Calvin is copyrighted and is probably one of the more black and white issues. But we as sign people do so much ripping off of each other it's not funny. Styles, fonts, techniques, etc. No one is innocent. Open your portfolio and start looking at what you have done. All innocent people can step forward. I for one am guilty as charged. And I at least admit it.
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-------------------- Rob Larkham Rob Larkham Signs & Lettering 21 Middlefield Road Chester, MA. 01011
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Dammit- I did'nt want to respond to this post. I just went through this. I had to contact a well known rock band to use some album cover art on a jet. I want to do a step by step for a mag, and I did'nt need any problems with them. Your right though- if I did'nt want to get it published- I would'nt have contacted them. I don't contact Warner Bros. for reproducing thier art on privatley owned vehicles or whatever. I would not, however, reproduce a trademarked character to advertise someones business. I think there is a difference.
Theres a guy here that has Bart Simpson on his sign- Being a big tourist area- I don't know how he's gotten away with it for so long.
Rob- When I was in the military, we never stole anything- The term we used was "borrow"
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and drive transcameros.....I liked that one.
-------------------- Al Checca The Sign Shoppe 934 Wood Street Latrobe PA 15650 Posts: 34 | From: Latrobe PA Just outside Pittsburgh PA | Registered: Oct 2001
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I won't discuss whether I've painted any characters or not publicly, but let's just say I am guilty.
Although I have never cut a peeing Calvin.
I'm sure if the clip art is out there, you will find it.
Many on this board do not support such action, I for one have to agree with such practices but then I am not without sin on this one. So I can not cast any stones.
Pee-on
-------------------- Bob Rochon Creative Signworks Millbury, MA 508-865-7330
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Rob, I guess i got this thing cranked up....so maybe I can finish it (fat chance). Of all the stuff that gets put out there, I hate this thing the most. Maybe because I read Calvin & Hobbes voraciously, and really loved the cartoons. Sure, most everyone has copied someone else's art before. Hell, it's how I learned to draw cartoons. I came up doing airbrush t-shirts for 12 years, so you think I didn't duplicate alot of things? The projector was my best friend, and I made a load of money with it. Copyright infringement? In the truest sense yes. But, there was some things that I wouldn't paint. Warner Bros. cartoon characters and Disney led that list. I did a few comic book characters, and the occasional funny strip or political cartoon. If they wanted to pay the money, yea, I did most of what they asked. The ****ing Calvin, no, I never painted it, or cut it on my plotter. For what ever reason it bothers me allot. Since I don't airbrush t-shirts on a grand scale anymore, I have to make fewer moral judgements about what I am painting. I've come across my work on web-sites before, with no credit attached. That really bothers me. I have had two portfolios stolen, losing years of work. I hate to think that someone is passing off my work as their own. Does Waterson approve of Calvin wizzing on various and assorted logos? I wonder about that ( you know, calvin always had a mischievious streak in him ). Am I being self righteous about this? Probably a little. The post bothered me, the subject bothered me, and I said my bit. Glad to see it provoked such a great debate.
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John Zant Sign of the Times Lafayette, Louisiana signmojo@cox-internet.com 337-233-9824 Posts: 57 | From: Lafayette, Louisiana, USA | Registered: Jul 2000
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Most of the Calvin's have been changed ever so slightly not much but enough to make them (not the same) This in the eyes of the law is usually enough. I'm sure a lot of you would disagree with the law especially if it was your work. But you would need to talk to your State Senator about that, not bitchin at the people on this BB. If you don't like the tread? Don't respond. I know a great deal of it is venting and my point is most of you wouldn't have the balls to say to someone's face what you do on the BB. We all know some of you don't like what you call stealing clipart. So what who cares what you think? Is it so important to always give your opinion, when no one has asked for it? Yo Rob..you right This BB would be a much nicer place if we all just stuck to the tread subject, if you don't agree with what it's about keep it youself unless asked for your opinion. Why start a fight or a mean debate over your opionion. I thought this BB was about helping others not trying to HURT OTHERS by using words that could make some people cry or at least make them feel rejected. If everyone were just alike..OH what a boring BB this would be.
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-------------------- Ronnie Conrad Augusta,Ga Posts: 374 | From: Augusta,Ga. | Registered: Aug 2000
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To me, everyone here has a point. Big deal it is just a cartoon. How can copying a cartoon hurt anyone?? You are right, it doesn't really hurt anyone. You do have to feed the family and pay the bills. You nephew or neice want some bullet holes or a Calvin cartoon, great. Then the other side of the coin says it is not a cartoon but an idea. If you use a cartoon then you are stealing an idea. To me what is a Calvin peeing worth. $5.00??? $2.50??? My question is what the heck are you doing it for in the first place? Unless you are cutting a 100 of the things at the same time it isn't worth doing. I wouldn't turn on the computer for $2.50. Not even considering the money is your business integrity worth $2.50. Think about it. Some people here say they changed the eyes or moved a couple of things around to "beat the law." Beat the law for $2.50??? Consider this. Hang a few of these on the walls of your shop. What do you think a high paying customer is going to say when they walk in and you try to sell them a higher end sign after displaying your portfolio of Calvin and Hobbs peeing on trucks and cars? You will never be taken seriously doing this stuff and that means no big money. You will be standing ankle deep in retail when hip deep in custom is where you have to be. Even for the 100 Calvins. That is only $250.00. It is not where you want to be in this business. We all complain about the quicky sticky shops and cheap prices. By the way, I used to be there. Cut anything for anyone for the most competitive price I could produce it. Groceries this week bills next week and no future and made it from week to week. Got out of that racket and it has paid dividends.
Kevin Landry KnL Signs Halifax NS
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