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John Smith
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I keep a spray bottle handy for wet sanding.
When I apply Pelucid, after a few hours, I spray with clean water to hasten the hardening. Well, I sprayed one coat of Pelucid on this nicely carved military squadron logo. Then sprayed with water. 2 days later, I sprayed the second coat. The Pelucid starts to bead up like water on waxed paper !!! I wipe off as much as I can with Xylene. Step back and regroup. Do the tests to see what happened. Well, my new helper, when asked to "clean up good", put SOAP in the bottle !!!! I sanded as much as I could off and brushed on the final coat. I have no idea how this is gonna hold up in the Southern California elements !!!! Thusfore, I am building a new sign for them (at my leisure) just for insurance. If it is never needed, I will have a nice display for the office.
I ALWAYS put food coloring in my bottles to distinguish what is in them !!! Pink for RapidTac, Blue for alchohol-water, and clear for PLAIN water !!!! I have done the math, Pelucid will NOT stick to a soapy surface. It is only a matter of time before the adhesion fails and the clearcoat begins to flake off.
Lesson to be learned here .... take it to heart !

[ December 17, 2001: Message edited by: John Smith ]

[ December 18, 2001: Message edited by: John Smith ]



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Pierre St.Marie
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It won't flake off, John.......but it could come off in one solid sheet. NOTE: The second THIN coat of Pelucid should be applied 1 hour after the first THIN coat. Wait at least 6 hours and then wet well.
Bum deal. Is your "new helper" going to make you sleep on the couch?? heh

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I'm sorry for your troubles and don't mean to make light of it, but geezus Pierre is that best you can do to cheer a guy up?

Be sure to let us know how it all works out...I'll be asking every guy thats looking for work if they've ever worked for John Smith. Try not to kill the guy I'm sure he'll never do it again.

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Ok, Monte. Have you heard the one about the Priest, the Rabbi, the Penguin and the can of Pelucid?? Well.....................................................

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Thanks for the heads-up John. I'm planning on applying some Pelucid here in a few days and, with Pierre's reply, it will help line up the job better.

Tough lesson tho...

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BTW - Pierre...can I leave the P in the spray gun for the hour between coats or should I clean the gun right away?

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Yes you can leave it in the gun, Pat. Make sure you leave the gun charged if you disconnect the air.

Forgot ot add....Clean the outside surface of the tip/nozzle with lacquer thinner, but leave the gun charged. Don't pull the trigger.

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Pierre, Interesting... Do you put a valve female disconnect coupling backwards on the gun to hold a charge. Never really thought of that. Would close off the atmosphere from outside, but lend a little tuff on the seals longterm. Please elaborate. Jack

On the otherhand, I guess you could tighten down the regulator valve, but doesn't that take the immediate pressure in the gun down also or is their a charge... Fishin...

[ December 18, 2001: Message edited by: bronzeo ]



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Hey, Jack. I have an in-line valve we use just for that purpose. Works with any paints at all. I don't leave Pelucid more than one hour, however.
I'm sure you alrady know that keeping the paint up and charged in the pickup keeps it fresh.

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