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John Martin Robson
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Is it possible to purchase or download vehicle templates individually....I'm looking for a 99 Chevy suburban, but I don't want to purchase 5000 templates that I won't use. I'm lucky if I do 10-15 vehicle a year. I've done a lot of searching over the last few days with not much luck........perhaps I'm asking to much.....no?

John Martin Robson
Pendragon Sign & Graphics

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John Martin Robson
Pendragon Signs & Graphics
Yellowknife,NT,Canada


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Dave Grundy
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Hi John..I have never used vehicle "templates" before but I have done tons of vehicles.

I used to just take a picture of the customers vehicle and scan it in and do the layout on it.

Now I use a digital camera.

Just a suggestion for an alternative method.


There is something magical to a customer about seeing THEIR actual vehicle with the graphics overlaid on it!

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www.mrclipart.com

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Mike Pipes
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Yep, one digital picture and a couple reference measurements is the way to go!

If ya dont have a digital camera, I guess you can just add in the cost of some film and 24 hour photo processing.

I havent lost a sale yet when I've been able to show the customer their actual vehicle with the graphics or signage overlayed on it to scale.
They LOVE seeing that!

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another way is to scan the line drawings fromthe drivers handbook or dealers factsheets

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Hi John:

The easist way is still Car'nTruck Collection at only $59. While the CDs contain over 5000 vehicles, it was never thought that anyone would need all of them. Rather, to the extent possible, that it'll have whatever you need, instantly.

Moreover, each template has precisely scaled vector drawings of all five sides ... front, back, left, right and top. The time it would take to photograph and edit a single vehicle ... on just 4 sides, let alone 5 ... easily justifies the cost of the collection ... IMHO. If you do 10 to 15 a year, I think Car'nTruck Collection is a virtually no-brainer.

If a 5000+ vehicle outline collection still seems like overkill, you can purchase individual templates at www.mr-clipart.com.

Best Regards,

Jim

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Jim.........this is exactly the kind of information I was looking for. In the past I've done precisely as most people here have suggesed..........photograph the vehicle & super-impose the graphics.........this is a great presentation technique and it works well for the sell job..... so it has served me well at times in the past.

However it falls short when you want to design & layout accurately. Photographing a vehicle from all sides is often a real problem (there is usally never enough space to do this), measuring, scanning, & scaling, really have its draw backs too. Its time consumming, has inaccuracies, lighting problems, not to mention shooting polariods (don't have a digital) in -35 degree weather (not good) and more then often objects such a key hole and door handles, even thoughs protruding running panels strips often don't show up in the picture or brend in with the vehicle paint..........and then this all becomes a real surprise if you have pre-cut graphics...........I don't have shop for doing vehicles so I have to pre-cut everything and take it to a client's shop or rent space.

So experience has told me this:
(1) photograph for presentatation & the sell job

(2) use templates for jobs where graphics need to be pre-cut or especially for large graphics, cause you really want to design around the tough spot wherever possible.

I'm by no means an expect in the vehicle graphics area or in any area for that matter, but there is nothing like good old screw-ups to teach you a lesson.

Really appreciate all your comments folks.

Thanks

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Yellowknife,NT,Canada


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Mike Pipes
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The issues you mentioned with using a photograph still exist with template files.

Any surface that's not perpendicular to the "camera" will be out of scale and not accurate at all as the templates do not take curves and inclined surfaces into consideration, and how often do you see flat panels on a vehicle?

So, you scan a photo and then scale it. That doesnt take anymore than a few seconds, all you need is one dimension.

When I do vehicle graphics, I dont take door handles, trim, emblems and all that junk into consideration when I'm doing the artwork.

Yes, I will try to avoid that stuff when possible but most of the time I design right over it.

When it comes time to install the graphics, that's when the emblems, trim pieces and door seams get cut out. I run the graphics either right to the edge or right over the obstacle then trim it out with an X-acto after the fact.

I'm not doggin' the vehicle template software, it's a great value at $60 considering the time it would save. I'm speaking more for the times when you need a template like yesterday for some oddball vehicle that's been customized far beyond "normality", which is alot of my market. A photo and some creative application techniques go a long way.

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Mike Pipes
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I use the Car & Truck Collection, but I don't rely on it alone. I still snap a couple of digital pictures with a tape measure or yardstick so I can scale it accurately.

And your right, Mike. You never know where all those handles, manufacturer's logos, gas cap covers and all the other things come from, cause they don't show up on the Collection data.

I still like the Car & Truck Collection because it gives me a reference to start with.

Stephen

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