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I know that a lot of folks, like myself, use the LeFranc oil size: half 3 hour and half 12 hour with a wee bit of turps or mineral spirits and gild within 4-6 hours. What is your personal recipe for "general purpose" sizing and why?
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-------------------- John Smith Kings Bay Signs (Retired) Kissimmee, Florida Posts: 822 | From: Central Florida - The Sunshine State | Registered: Jan 2000
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i use half and half in my coffee......dont count huh? heheheheheheh
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Aside from using OneShot fast size straight from the can for 20 minute tack with 4 hour open time., I have been adding 25 to 50% of it to slow size. The tack time ranges from 2 to 4 hours with and open time of around 8. Temperature and humidity are big players with these mixes however and if I have time to properly finish the job, I prefer straight slow size. Good gilidng should not be rushed but there are practical matters to consider and serving the customer while making a profit is one.
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I use 1Shot quick size with a bit of imitation gold to color it a bit...up to 25% slow size, if I want a longer open time. Temperature has a lot to do with open time!
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I use LaFranc size. I like to use the slow size when I can...usually in the shop. I also do a lot of yachts...most are gold. I then use a quick size as I have a lot of distractions around. I can usually quild within 3 hours, depending on the temperature. Most of the boats are inside and can be tented over. I can also control the teperature a little better. I also put a few drops of imitation gold so I can see the coverage. Most of the names are cut from removable mask and rolled with a yellow Tiz roller. If i need a little more time I put a couple of drops of linseed oil to retard the drying time.
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My favorite is LeFranc, works for me for years. Did many boats outside and the quick size is the choice, but when doing inside work the slow size is by far the finest yet. When doing a fleet of straight job trucks on the outside, a mix of slow and fast worked best. You could time the set up time by the amount of fast added to the slow. My favorite mix for coloring the size has always been one shot white. Most use a yellow or imm. gold so that it doesn't look too bad where there are holidays, cracks and lines in the gold. By using the slow size and tapping down all overlaps and wrinkles, you can eliminate the holidays. To me, that is the way it should be.
-------------------- Bill Riedel Riedel Sign Co., Inc. 15 Warren Street Little Ferry, N.J. 07643 billsr@riedelsignco.com Posts: 2953 | From: Little Ferry, New Jersey, USA | Registered: Feb 1999
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Bill....I see your idea of using white as a colorant. I very rarely leave any pinholes in my gold jobs...I go over them several times with the tissue from the gold. I use Imitation gold so I can see where I am going. But I can see why white would work just as good or maybe better...I will try it next time.
Thanks from "No Holes" Jackson
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