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Michael Boone
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Anybody remember the days when the only layout tool ya needed was a yardstick.
I used ta would get handfuls of free yardsticks at the local hardware.I broke em to fit the job if necessary.They were printed with the company name and were free to the hardware..so they liked that I left a trail of yardstickery all over the place.
I used em for stir sticks...
I propped up 4x8's on edge with a grid work of pinch clamped yardsticks........hurry up..git em dry fast!!!!!!!
Truck doors galore with small copy that was the same height as a yardstick.
Punch a hole in a yardstick,insert a stabilo in the hole...locate a center point........yardstick compass.
Flyswatter in disguise........
Smack the dog's arse.......with a yardstick.
Cut em up for kite stays in spring......Boy the kids usedta would love kites!
Yardsticks make great shims.
Yardsticks make great batons for boat work...Pinch the tips and bend to desired arch....then strike that arch with a stabilo clenched in yer teeth.
Try THAT one with an audience..if ya wanna be real hero,only.....dont blow it!!!!!!!
Now I have a really neat collection of antique yardsticks.....personal memorabelia.No...no more bust em to length.I dont break my toys no more since its awmose time to be growed up!!!!!
Yardsticks are as American as Apple Pie n duct tape!All paint all over em!

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Michael Boone
Sign Painter
5828 Buerman Rd.Sodus,NY 14551

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Ya ever peel left out of your drive way gorfetting that you left a metal one (one of them thick ones) on top of your car? I did one night, and the dang thing bounced around for a good spell. I was scared I dropped sompn useful from under the hood. I heard all the clatter and looked in the rear view...only saw flashes of red flyin around behind me (reflection from the tail lights) and decided I need to boogity on down the road.

I came back later and saw what had happened. It was late so I backed up and straddled the car over the yellow lines and opened the door to grab it. I felt like such a fool when I got in the house and had to explain why I was parked in the middle of the road in front of the house.

Good times, good times...

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LOL Oh yeah.....them were the dayzzzz eh Michael? Prit near the only tools you needed alright....yardstick, stabillo and paint. What freedom huh!!!!! I miss that, but thanks for the laughs Michael. You are a gem.
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Mark Fair Signs
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hey bubba michael,
i still prefer those "thin" yardsticks.... they bend.
i never use a tape measure, i always use a thin yardstick.

thin is better!

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Mark Fair Signs
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Montgomery, Alabama 36107


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Michael Boone
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Hay Lindergirl......
You gots a line- since....ta drive?
You sound dangeriss!
Please dont leave ya a weedeater or an alligator on the roof!
Wanna buy some duct tape?

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Michael Boone
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA...Mikey, I can hear ya tellin' this!!!!


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Rob Clark
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MAAAAATE, yardsticks sound really cool, seems I've had a depraved oops I mean deprived childhood

RobC

Reality is just a pigment of your imagination

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Rob Clark
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When I started in this biz a local sign supply house gave away 4ft "yardsticks"! They were the thin ones Mark refers to; and they were straight!
Great tool for bulletin work. At some point in the mid 80's the sticks began to warp. They still made great stir-sticks, but that was about it.

These days even the 3ft sticks are warped, gotta check em all before use.

Don't fergit the bucket ful of charcoal sticks tied to the backrail of the swing-stage!

I don't much miss swingin scaffolds!

Dem were the days

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Bill Dirkes
Cornhole Art LLC
Bellevue, Ky.
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A few years ago!
I was workng on a gentleman's Tractor Trailer.

I was using a Steel Ruler that cost around $100.00
new. I layed it on the catwalk of the vehicle and forgot about it.
He liked the job/payed and left.
6-hours later I get this call from his cell phone,
He asked "Did you loose anything?"
Not that I know of!
Well he said he has been traveling around the city and hearing this rattling sound that was driving him crazy.
So whats that got to do with Me? He ask again if I had lost anything.
Sure enough I thought about the steel ruler.
He started to laugh and telling me that he would be by in a hour with it.
6-hours on the bumpest/pothole infested roads of Nova Scotia and it didn't fall off!


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Rick Sacks
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I still have my collection. Some that are used and somew that are memorabelia.

Another use no one mentioned is we cut notches in the ends and drill a hole, insert string, tie big knot in the end and draw it tight making a bow that we can adjust for laying out arched lettering on trucks. We have the bigger bow for 4x8s.

I have some that have handles on them.

Often yardsticks could become dear and get so dirty that the numerals were no longer readable. We'd make chalks mark on it to give us the stroke widths and heights.

On time I started laying out this wall from one end and Bennie from the other. Things didn't match when we met cause he was using a 32 inch yard stick and didn't know it.

It was a standard item for every sign person to hold a yardstick and know vertical anywhere. Ah....Yardstick letters!

Thanks Mike.

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making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity. — Charles Mingus


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Tim Barrow
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Been there Rick! I once had a vietmaneese helper who "thought" in metric terms,...instead of inches & feet,well we were laying out a billboard & very quickly found out that the metric stick he was measuring with was 38"-39" long. He didn't speak english very well so when he saw me measure 3'(the full length of the stick) then add another coupla inches he did the same with his stick,...
Oh yea Bill, I got me 2 new 4' sticks & a 1/2" square one shot stick at duck soup na nah na nah na,..heheheheheh

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Mom was one heck of a striper. She laid some mighty fine lines across our backsides with a yardstick. I can remember my oldest brother and I hiding them from her!

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Kathy Joiner
River Road Graphics
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Ponchatoula, La.70454

Old enough to know better...Too young to resist.

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Thank you for a real sign painters post Mike.
The yardstick has always been a very important tool and when on the job you realized you left it at the shop you were lost. Many times it doubled for the mahl stick that was left behind.
When a real straight one arrived we would coat it with clear and this kept it from warping.
Keep these good posts coming.

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Bill Riedel
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My favorite trick with yardsticks is to epoxy strips of magnetic sheeting on the back. Works great when doing layout lines on truck doors. (As long as they are steel doors.)

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Remember? hell the yard stick is still an important part of my arsenal The only thing I've noticed is nobody gives them away anymore, a buck and a quarter for the warped ass cheapies I like the heavier versions myself.
Linda you had me laughing. I did something similar one time. I must have laid my yardstick on the top of my camper shell. I left the job and headed out the interstate. After about ten miles of 65 mph plus, I hear this tapping noise coming from the open sun roof. Yep, the yardstick had ridden up ther all that time and was now making it's way twards the front of the truck. I just reached up and yanked it inside.

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Hi Heads,

I went to the store and picked up 15 yard sticks over the past spring.

Some were free, and others I bought at Menards for 44 cents each. Now you got to PAY for their advertising! Gheesh!

Anyway, to make a long story longer and even more boreing.... I used them at baseball practice one night for the 12 year old kids.

It seems they were a little unknowing how to spread their legs apart in the batters box for a proper stance.

I made each of them take a yard stick, measure the width of their shoulders, then they had to place the yard stick on the ground and place their feet on the stick twice the distance of thier shoulders. Some were real surprised just how far those feet have to be spread.

Any way to make a long story even....oh forget it...THEY TOOK THE STICKS HOME WITH THEM!
ARGHHHHHHHHHHHH They thought they were a free gift from the coach! KIDS! gheesh!

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They're good for swat'n yellow-jackets too. I still use em' alot. For years I never even used a tape measure. I had yardsticks cut to different sizes for such jobs as Office Doors, Large/small windows etc. Always had one in my hand, even when greeting a new customer, "I was ready to go". Of couse you wanted the straight ones. thin is good, but for window promos I opt for four footers and thicker. I have used them with pounce bags attached to reach the end of a pattern from ladder, just so I did'nt have to make an extra move. Sho-card layouts, scribing the lines in charcoal, also used them for scale sketching a wall job or other. 1 1/2" = 1' was a quick draw on a piece of butcher paper. Also how many times that a letter hgt. of 1 1/4" was ideal.

I was on job recently and got caught without one when needed. I had recently taken everything out of vehicle for cleanig and had'nt had a chance to get it all back in properly. Well I could not find one, even at the paint store, so after about a half a dozen stops I just decide to go back to shop (10mi) to get missing friend.

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*sob* Good yardsticks seem to be a thing of the past! As others have mentioned, not only are they usually warped, but now you have to pay for them!

I cut off the bent sections and use them for stir sticks, and the straight sestions for layouts on small signs. Bought some stainless steel ones for bigger layouts, on my board. for use on site, Home Depot has 4 ft plastic ones, with spirit levels...great for walls and other large signs.

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It's gettin time for me to go put those v-stripes on a newly remodeled train engine again. I have a collection of sticks broken up to fit, just for this job alone. I have to tote four of em. The lady in the front office thinks I'm a nut. Maybe I should print this thread up for her to read.

If she understood why I didn't use a tape measurer for the whole job, she'd prolly be squattin and crawlin around all the steel thingies that stick outta the nose on that puppy and gettin the check too!

Don't let me forget the chalk line though, the doors down the side aren't even most of the time. And that's where most of the copy goes hahaha!

Mike, I'm glad you started this thread!

I'm anxious to seee if somebody has made a yardstick holster yet. Do you know how many times I've run circles lookin for one I laid down, gorfotting where it was?

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Linda Welborn
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i been buyin the aluminum ones from JOHNSON LEVEL & TOOL CO.PART #J236/40-0554. down to my last one ....these are nice as they have the inches on one side and you can get a # 1 from either end. cant find these anywhere...all the others i find now are inch/metric. also had a nice 54" alum. ruler got it from a guy that did upolstery.

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joe pribish-A SIGN MINT
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I have a nicely cut off 30" yardstick I use for quoting wall jobs.
I give the customer a pencil and pad to write down my measurements.
Tell him I will just grab my "yardsick" and measure the square footage for him. he he he
gained 6" everytime I moved the STICK!

(actually I HEARD this story)thought ya'll would get a kick out of it

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when i was a draftman for a BUTLER BUILDER(metal building) we set forms to pour a concrete pad for a building that was 80' x 140'. the carpenter that was layin out the forms was an old "caunuk" frenchman. he always used those fold up 6 ft rulers. well some where between this 80' side of the building and the other end, he broke 6" off that fold up ruler...think ya can figure out the outcome here.....we started to set steel on the 80' end, bout half way down steel and anchor bolts wernt linen up....had to bust out the concrete and anchors and repour. all for 6".

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Rich, after you pounced with the bag way out on the end of the stick - did you tie your brush out there also to paint the letters - thereby still saving the extra move?

Linda, I'm one of those old gezeers that always loses track of everything. My shop had two rooms and I would lose a yardstick or a pencil walking from one room to the other or go to get one of each and get one and forget what else I went in there for. I never break yardsticks for stir sticks, I use stir sticks for that, so I wound up with a lot of yardsticks and varnished all the good, straight ones - put nails all around in the shop about every 10 feet or so and also attached a little can of pencils right next to it on the wall. I could always find them close by then.

These "Sign Painter Posts" of late are sure nice to see. Keep it up, guys!


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Hay Mike, I got four rooms not includin the van...hehehehe...reckon i arta just wear a chunk of two by four on my butt and nail my pencil can to that and have a nail for yardsticks to hang on.

Less nails that way...hay do ya think i oughta take the contraption off first when i go to nailin on it?

hehehe.

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Hey Mike...this is one of my favorite subjects (can't believe I'm getting in on it so late)

I can't make it thru the day with out a yard stick...If I have one I have 50...there is a half dozen in every corner.

I still layout with a yardstick.(even vinyl)

I use them to run lines (down the edge of the lettering bench)

I have one that has holes every inch and 1/2" so I can use it as a compass.

They are great for finding the center of anything
(just measure in from each end then divide the last center measurement by turning it at an angle to get an equal number divisible by 2)

Use it as a calculator to divide panels into equal portions or measuring lines and negative space for charts and multiple lined sign panels.
(neat trick when you know it)

Use them as a triangle by taping them down to a piece of showcard...establishing an angle you want to repeat on a line of (dare I say it)hand laid out copy.

I keep several yardsticks that are equipped with a dowell (slit and glued to the end) and use it to locate correct measurements on vehicles by catching the dowell in the edge of a body line then marking the measurement...(no more crooked graphics on Ford vans)I've given several of these away at letterhead meets (I often wonder if anyone finds them useful) I love em!

There is always at least 6 sticks in my truck.

I 've bowed 'em...slit them...cut them down to fit inside the glass area on store front doors.

I've stirred paint with them used them on site as door jams.

And one of my favorite things in the whole world is to hand someone an old yardstick with plenty of graphite on the edges (form years of use, drawing lines with a pencil)and then watching them as they throw it half way across the shop
when the Electro-pounce travels up that gaphite and kicks their ass! I love that!

Show me someone using a tape measure and I'll show you someone thats wasting time.

I've never had any use for metal yard sticks (they scratch things and get dings in em.

In the old production shops everyone had their own favorite stick it was usually sanded smooth...painted or stained with a color code along the back edge (advertising area) and coated with clear lacquer)Woe be the guy caught coveting or using someone elses stick!

Lol...you brought back some good memories...but the one I remember best was being an apprentice lettering on old "metal flats" (sheet metal signs with wood frames...a precurser to MDO) and having a Journeyman sneak up behind it and smack it with a yardstick to test your nerves...after a while you never flinch again!Mostly because you get tired of cleaning up the paint you sling so generously about the room...and partly because you get tired of being the brunt of the joke!

God... I miss those days.

Finally...I LOVE MY YARDSTICKS!

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I also have yardsticks scattered around the shop that never get used...just looked at and talked about. Stix with names or business's from bygone days, ones with four digit phones, ones that pre date zip codes. These are some of the history items I collect like old metal milk cans with dairy names embossed.

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The SignShop
Mendocino, California

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Making the simple complicated is commonplace;
making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity. — Charles Mingus

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I didn't know so many signpainters appreciated good yardsticks. I used to varnish them when they were new so they wouldn't soak up water and warp. I still like the thicker 4 ft ones you can get at fabric stores.
I once had a dream where I could fly as long as I was holding on to this flying yardstick out in front of me with both hands.

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