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Just curious how many cities make it the sole responsiblity of the sign company to secure the permit. My sign code enforcement, tells me that it lies with me. Everyone else says its a crock. How does your city handle this stuff. Thanks, Bronzeo
-------------------- "Don't change horses in midstream, unless you spot one with longer legs" bronzeo oti Jack Davis 1410 Main St Joplin, MO 64801 www.imagemakerart.com jack@imagemakerart.com Posts: 1549 | From: Joplin, MO | Registered: Mar 2000
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In our little town, who ever does the installation is the one held responsible for permits. The town doesn't care who gets it, but the installer has to certain that one has been pulled because he's the one who gets punished if its not been done.
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Doesn't matter. The customer pays for the service one way or the other. If it takes you three hours to process it has to be built in the cost of the sign or you lose the money
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Maybe I wasn't clear. Sign companies are supposed to apply for all permits here. They do not want to deal with the general public. This forces me to deal with every little nicknac sign that I do. Not just the larger ones.
-------------------- "Don't change horses in midstream, unless you spot one with longer legs" bronzeo oti Jack Davis 1410 Main St Joplin, MO 64801 www.imagemakerart.com jack@imagemakerart.com Posts: 1549 | From: Joplin, MO | Registered: Mar 2000
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That is why our town puts the responsibility on the installer. We have a lot of customers who install their own. It would be silly of the Inspections Dept to hold me resonsible for the actions of someone else.
Just my 2 cents (and its not even worth that much )
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Around here they go after the business where the sign is located. I think it is just easier for them to do it that way. Contractors by law are responsible for their actions. That, of course, would make them responsible for the permits if the customer complained to the license board.
-------------------- Victor Georgiou Danville, CA , USA Posts: 1746 | From: Danville, CA , USA | Registered: Dec 1998
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Maui County would like permit app's on every exterior sign, but 90% of signs here were not permitted, & 75% of those would not have been allowed if permit app was filed. Maybe in 1% of these the owners get notified to take down sign, until permit process completed. (this usually when some bitter competitor across the street drops a dime on the new guy with the new sign threatening his business)
I always have to tell customers it's their decision if they want to pay me to ask the county if they can have what they want, just to be told no, or to gamble and skip the permit.
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The customer can pull the permit here, but the responsibility to do so lies with the installer. I usually give the client the option of saving some money by obtaining the permit himself.
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Here, a customer can pull the permit, but has to have the Licensed Sign Erector Contractors number on the application, because all commercial signs (even if it's just one nail in a wall) have to be installed by a licensed contractor. Although it's the customers obligation, our local Code Enforcer really likes for us to inform our clients, and we like to keep him happy.
-------------------- Joe Endicott NEXCOM (Navy Exchange Service Command) Signing Programs Specialist Virginia Beach, VA jeendicott@msn.com
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For me to get a permit a contractors license is required and at city hall and county building dept. they have some form sent by my liability insurance carrier and bonding carrier. There is owner/builder permits also, but insurance is also required and often times a drawing with the stamp from an engineer. This releases the municipality from liability should the sign ever injure someone. I don't mind getting permits as it's easier for me than for someone that doesn't know how to navagate that path, and I charge my hourly rate for BS'ing with the girls at city hall.
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