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Carl Wood
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Did anyone else her sell a lot of flags?
I've probly sold 2 - 3 thousand in the last week - - - -

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Carl Wood
Olive Branch, Ms

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Tyler
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I am listed under 'flags and banners' in the yellowpages, and have been getting tons of calls everyday for flags (which I dont have). I did design up a couple of patriotic static cling decals which I just recieved. I bought about 7500 total, of two different decals, which I hope to sell for a buck each.
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Shane French
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Well I can tell you this much...

Everybody and their mother (including my mother) has called me this week telling me, "You know what you should do? Print up some flag magnets, or flag t-shirts, OH MY GOSH you'd sell a million of those!!!"

Gee now THERE's an idea! NEVER thought 'a that!


-shane

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Halo Graphics
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Don Hulsey
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Haven't sold a one... but been giving them away like crazy.

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Don Hulsey
Strokes by DON signs
Utica, KY
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I've always been crazy... but it's kept me from going insane.

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Mark Fair Signs
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you are a good man don hulsey.
it was great seeing you and dora at ducksoup.

God bless America.

mark

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Mark Fair Signs
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Montgomery, Alabama 36107


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Bob Loves Signs gave them (flag decals) away in trade for a $5 check made out to American Red Cross. Have collected over $700 so far.

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Victor Georgiou
Danville, CA , USA

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Super idea Vic....

I havn't had much calls in the way of patriotic images, I did a couple of big flags and a really cool eagle head (flags were hard, eagle head was easy) on a window last week.
I sold four decals i made on my plotter for 15 bucks each to one customer in Napa, other than that, no.

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Sharon Bigler
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We made up really cool decals and are selling them for $5, proceeds going to the families of the firefighters and police that were killed. Have made over $500 so far and counting.

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Sharon Bigler
A Good Sign
Chambersburg, PA

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Wayne Berry
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Oh yea! More times than I can post. I like Vic's approach but I didn't think of it in time. I've given away a lot of them and I make sure every banner and sign I do has one on it when it leaves.

Wayne
My gosh the weather is Sssooooo nice this week!

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Berry Signs & Stripes
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Mark Fair Signs
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to mass produce the american flag at this time for profit is not cool.

i agree with the above, about giving a flag and in return give the proceeds to the families of people who perished.

just my opinion,

mark

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Mark Fair Signs
2162 Mt. Meigs Road
Montgomery, Alabama 36107


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David Wright
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Hey Mark it could be worse. Starbucks near the the Trade Center was selling water to the rescue workers.

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Wright Signs
Wyandotte, Michigan

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unfourunately, I had to make some signs related to this tragedy. Karen Martin a friend was a flight attendant AA flight 11. tuff signs to make
God bless Karen, and all who lost loved ones in this disaster.

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Ken McTague,
Concept Signs
57 Bridge St. (route 107)
Salem MA 01970
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"A wise man once said that, or was it a wise guy?"

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Doug Allan
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So when a hardware store helps 1 person express their grief or patriotism with a cheap nylon flag for $20, I've heard no complaints except that they are all running out of flags.

If we help 20 people fly a small message of support for $1 each, that is not cool?

I have given away 30 or 40 flag decals to my customers, but I have also sold over a hundred when people ask to buy them.

I can afford to give a $300 banner to our local memorial event partly because I have a business in which I can turn a profit when someone sees my $200 a month yellow page ad and asks me to print whatever they want on my $25,000.00 equipment & SELL it to them.

Don, & Victor it is an honorable thing that each of you are doing along with countless others. But I have to dissagree with Mark on reasonable flag profits being uncool, weather its 20 or 2000.

[ September 27, 2001: Message edited by: Doug Allan ]



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Doug Allan
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Mark Fair Signs
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hey doug,

that is the beauty of this country.
free enterprise and free expression.

a knee jerk reaction on my part i am sure, but at this time it just doesn't seem right.

to market the flag at this time is tacky.

if a good customer comes in and says, "i would like an american flag to go on my trucks"

i would ask, "how many do you need."

i would not run a special promotion to sell flags.

we are not just selling signs here, we are selling ourselves as people concerned with freedom in this cruel world.

at the same time i do understand economics, nothing is free.
my point is if the hardware store has decals of the american flag for 1 dollar they should sell them for one $.
then they should send 50 cents to a relief agency.

i just felt that cranking out american flags at this time in history is a tacky thing to do.

to actively pursue that bit of business is "uncool"

just my opinion, nothing else.

mark

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Mark Fair Signs
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Montgomery, Alabama 36107

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here's a thought.... I heard on the radio the other day, that in China they are going wide open, 3 shifts, 24/7 - making AMERICAN FLAGS!

Then the next morning I saw a guy in a japanese truck, with a chinese made flag flying from his window.

The more I thought about it, the more I got ****ed.

I'm SICK of all the money in this country going to other countries! What the hell is wrong with big business?? They get their stuff built overseas to increase profits.. but if no one in the USA can buy their stuff because they lost their jobs to NAFDA or some other 'lets save the world' BS, what do they think is going to happen?

I was feeling very weird and unusually (for me) moralistic about making a profit on this mess. But, I'd rather see an AMERICAN make money off of Americans and spend in America on American services, goods, and products.

You canucks, do the same (in canuckville )


I havent made a patriotic anything yet, for myself or anyone else. By the time I figure out what is right for me, no one will care and my decision will be made for me.

But if YOU are doing something now, good for you.


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I don't have any problem with making a profit off of patriotic decals that I design and print. This country is based on capitalism. In any case, it is at least helping stimulate the economy, with local people exchanging money for goods and services. I view it as a chance to make some extra money and I don't have any reservations about it whatsoever.

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Tyler Malinky
A Step Above Signs
Cleveland, Ohio
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440.842.1894 fax

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Carl Wood
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To all concerned about making a profit on flags - there was very little profit in it for me. I was hesitant to sell them at first; but people were wanting them - there were no other flags, red or blue ribbons, or anything else available. Even the local Wal-Mart sold out of red & blue beads - wonder why? I sold 18x24 coroplast yard signs with wire stands for $7 each - basicly my cost. Plus I employed 3 out of work people to make them. When was the last time anyone sold 18x24, full-bleed, anything for 7 bucks? 'takes time to weed 50 stars. . . . .God Bless America. . . .Land that I Love . . . .Carl

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Carl Wood
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Mark Fair Signs
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hey carl, i did'nt mean to slam your post.
now that you have explained yourself i feel you are doing a noble thing.

as far as you rob lowe from "sparkle city", quit yer whining, you made all that money off of those shi*tty movies here in america and you are not willing to give any of it back in a time of need?

oops, wrong rob lowe.

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Mark Fair Signs
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I made a vinyl flag for the window of my truck, and made more today to give out to customers who ask for them. Today i came up with a really cool design. The statue of Liberty, with USA colored like an American flag. I am sure someone will ask for one possibly for a donation. I also dont feel right about making a profit out of this. But, if someone called and wanted 1000 pieces, i could not afford to do them for free. I stopped by my screenprinter's shop and they had an order for 20,000 patriotic t-shirts. In this case you have no choice but to charge a fair price. They gave me a couple of shirts at no charge, I thought that was cool!

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Brad Funk
Artisan Signs
Phoenix, AZ
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Brad,

Mark will do those 1000 flags!

HeHeHe..Just kidding Mark!

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Doug Allan
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I have to agree with what I think Mark is saying here. By all means, cover your cost if you need to, but to actively push flag sales for increased profit is tacky. I figure the small amount I have invested in these will be recovered by return customers, but right now, I can't see charging, unless in the form of a donation.

But, hey... that's what it's all about. In this great country we ALL have the FREEDOM to do what WE think is best as long as it does not infringe on the rights of others.

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Don Hulsey
Strokes by DON signs
Utica, KY
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Yeah, when you say "actively push flag sales" I'd have to agree it gets a little more tacky then just meeting the demand.
I have a client who wants 1000 for the county fair next week so he can "look for the demand" that falls on the tacky side of the grey area, but what about me filling that order? Opinions?

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Would anyone have made flag orders a month ago?

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PKing is
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i heard that there had been over $90 million dollars raised for the families of the police and fire personel that lost their lives.
if this figure is correct then none of their families will ever have to work again.

i am probably a tacky person because i sell
people what they want at a profit.
i don't have insurance and i owe the doctors and hospital over$40,000.00 from my stroke and my wifes cancer.
my medicine for the two of us runs over $1000.00 per month.
i don't accept donations so i have to work to make
a profit.

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Jimmy Chatham
Chatham Signs
468 stark st
Commerce, Ga 30529


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jimmy, et. al. :

Keep on makin those flags and makin money! Like Mark said, it's only his opinion, I don't think anybody is trying to judge anybody here.

I made two magnetic flags this week: one for my driver's side and on for my passenger side on my vw jetta. Gave 'em away to a buddy a few days ago

I do like the idea of printing some stickers/shirts/etc... and taking donations for the relief effort. Guess all I have to do now is get off my lazy rear and do it.

-shane

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Jimmy's reply makes a damn good point. You do what you see as right for you and your business. It's not as if we were a bunch of lawyers handing out business cards at the funeral home.
Unfortunately there will be no fund raisers for the millions who suffer greatly but don't have the same patriotic circumstances to induce people to help them. Such is life.

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Wright Signs
Wyandotte, Michigan

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Mark Fair Signs
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well put david.

did not mean to offend anyone, to each his own.

mark

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Mark Fair Signs
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there's a line of exploiting the situation that can be crossed (as David refered to with the lawyer thing)
I read today about people setting up shop (street carts) in Manhattan just to sell "patriotic" wares. IMO selling t-shirts that say "I survived the twin towers bombing" has crossed that line.
Making a couple bucks off a couple flags that someone wanted isn't the same thing.

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I feel the same as Carl. At first I didn't want
to do it because I felt that I didn't want to exploit someone else's tragedy. But then customers kept coming in telling me that I should make flag decals because K-marts, Wal-Marts and Meijer's was all sold out. It took me 10 days to come to terms with my feelings but then I started making a few. Then more and more customers kept stopping in and asking, saying they couldn't find them anywhere. So I put a sign out that I have make flag decals. I had a trucker stop in and we installed a 42" by 70+" on the back of his truck.

I would love to be able to give 100's of decals away but my situation is that I just bought this shop one year ago, I am the only shop that has a store front right in the city (and have a landlord), an employee of the previous owner has started his sign shop out of his garage in the city, and my biggest competitor moved from a barn outside the city to ALMOST in the city. So needless to say, things have changed a little bit since I bought the business.

So I make the flags that people want, feeling that I am so glad that people are finally getting back to being as patroitic as I have always been. I just am torn up that it took such a drastic tragedy to get to this point.

My husband and I used to do lots of parades with our horses and it would really grind me to see people so disrestectful when our veterans and our flags would go by. They would totally ignor our flag by sitting and talking, eating, or just turn their backs on it.

I can't afford to give flags away but I am selling at a little lower price than what I would normally sell my PC-60 printed graphics. People are so thrill to have decals that not one has asked where the proceeds are going. I have about 6 different layouts so far (which people are thrilled to have a selection) and have told customers that if they can find something different in clipart, I'll print up what they want.

I applaud those of you that can give your decals away. I pray for those that have experienced great loses and for those that will lose their sons, daughters, fathers, and mothers as we go to war. I have a duaghter due to have a baby in 4 weeks and her husband is in the reserves. So we don't talked much about him getting a call.

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Laura Butler
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I have made up flag decals for my customers and have made up several different designs for sale to the public. To offset my feelings about making a profit on these i have priced individual decals at the 100 Quanity price. Ive only made maybe a dozen of each so I feel ok in pricing them this way. Sort of like when Dale Earnhardt died at Daytonna. I was a fan of his, I refused to make any decals for several weeks, then I made some because many of my regular customers requested them. I priced them very low too. We all have a right to price them anyway we wish. So live with it.

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Kevin L. Kleinhans
Alma Signs
(Signs Be Me)
Alma, Michigan

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Hey Kevin,
Are you right in town? Myabe next time I am in Alma, I can stop in. I'd love to see other peoples shops and work.

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Laura Butler
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Attica, Mi 48412

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