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I'm hoping for some ideas from everyone. My friend that taught me the sign trade is 84 now and has never used a computer. I made a deal with a customer to trade signs for a used computer for my friend and his wife. The original idea was just something big enough they could email their children and grandchildren. I wasn't sure if they would even go for the idea of learning computers at this point in life.
I took the computer to them yesterday. I stressed on whether they would accept it or not. They refused to have a microwave oven for a long time, and I did get them to accept an answering machine for their 50th wedding anniversery. I was surprised to find they were very excited about the computer and couldn't wait to hook it up. They are already talking about a printer and maybe a scanner. I know already I got them too small of a system for all the ideas that were flying.
My question is: What would you recommend for software for an 84 year old retired sign painter? The system is old, it has Windows 95 and only about 32 meg of memory. It does have a CD Rom, but I'm not sure what else. (I'm not that great with computers). I showed him the Paint program that comes with Windows, and have them both playing Solitaire to get use to using the mouse. I will probably have to have the system updated more, or trade up shortly. I never thought the ideas would be flying like they were to move past emailing relatives and start playing with things like scanning photos and touching them up. I would have bought them something sooner(and bigger) if I had know they would be so excited about it.
Do you know of any programs that would be good for a beginner along the artistic line? I know most graphics programs can take up a lot of memory so I don't know what to do.
Once I get them up and running, I will put the Letterhead Bullboard on there list of favorite sites to visit. I think this bullboard will be one of his funnest places to visit while surfing the web.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Pam
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Pam, It is very nice if your to do that for them.
I would suggest one of the lower end Broderbund programs like print shop. You can do a minimal load without installing graphics and they can use the cd to bring up the graphics.
Good luck with it.
-------------------- Kathy Joiner River Road Graphics 41628 River Road Ponchatoula, La.70454
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Corel Draw might be a good start. I bought mine just for the fonts, so I don't know as much about it, but it will be low priced, probably a little less of a memory hog then some others & capable of inporting & exporting to & from more professional (& expensive)products, like exchanging files with you to cut or print their designs? I don't know about corel paint but without stepping up to something like Adobe photoshop, I think you can get some basic photo editing program from Corel, as well as a "Trace" option for vectorizing scans if that may be needed. I asked Corel about an upgrade price because someone had given me all their original Corel CD's and it turns out there is no owner registration concerns. They gave me a low upgrde price, but shipped the full program w/ documentation, fonts, clipart book & CD's all for under $150 (Corel Draw only, not "paint" or "trace")
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Pam...My dad, who is now 80, got his first computer about 5 years ago. I installed Corel 4 on it and he had a ball with it. The older versions of Corel can be purchased very inexpensively and don't require any more than 16 meg of ram.
As far as upgrading...YEP they will probably be after a faster machine quickly. Dad is now on his 3rd system in 5 years and it is faster than mine!!!
On word of caution though..Be prepared to help them out of problems with the computer. If they are anything like dad they will be surfing all over the internet and will probably download and install every "free" program that they find interesting....soon screwing up the registry so bad that you'll have to format the hard drive every six mopnths or so!!!!!!!! LOL
A very nice gesture though Pam and I know that they will get great enjoyment out of their new toys!!!!
-------------------- Dave Grundy retired in Chelem,Yucatan,Mexico/Hensall,Ontario,Canada 1-519-262-3651 Canada 011-52-1-999-102-2923 Mexico cell 1-226-785-8957 Canada/Mexico home
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Listen to Dave on this. Get a older version of Corel. Version 6 or earlier. They won't demand as much memory. As far as Win 95. That may be their best bet since it is rock solid.
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Thank you all for the advice. I called the couple last night to see how things were going and she said he has been playing with the computer off and on all day. We don't have the phone line hooked up yet. Have to run a line from the basement.
I am anxious to get more software installed. I heard something about one early version of Corel Draw that had a lot of bugs in it. Maybe Corel 5. I am going to look for Corel 6 and the Print Shop that Cathy mentioned. Joey, is that a screen magnifier you mentioned? That would be a good idea.
I know there is a CD out there at Wal Mart with-A Million Food Recipes- on it. I will get one of those for Max's wife. At 80 you have cooked a lot of meals and I see she has been trying new recipes out of magazines lately.
We are suppose to be putting money into the economy right? I guess this project will get me spending on fun stuff.
Thanks again for the advice.
Pam
-------------------- Pam Eddy Niles, MI ple@qtm.net
Windows 95 has Accessability options, that give you larger fonts and things like that for people who might not see so well, Also I was thinking if they have children and grandchildren a good family tree program would be great, that way they can use a scanner and build a nice family tree.
"A signs" is a merchant on this site, they sell sign tool add-ons for Corel, they also sell older version of Corel draw for cheap money.
If he is an old sign painter, he's going to want to add shadows and things.
I had Corel 5 and I had no problems with it but I really loved Corel 7, in my opinion from a sign painters point of view Corel 7 was when Corel thought past the desktop publisher and thought more like a sign maker.
If you can't get a version of 5, I can get it from a friend of mine, I sold him my older version of 5 and now he is using ver 9.
-------------------- Bob Rochon Creative Signworks Millbury, MA 508-865-7330
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If it's an ibm clone, probably memory is dirt cheap right now, I would get them up to 64 at least if they are gonna be on the web. Also don't waste your money on recipes, there are thousands on the net already. I have given away several computers to older folks, and some younger ones. And I find once they get on the net, they need a fast modem and will like to play a lot of games. as far as drawing program is concerned, you can't beat corel 5 or 6 for an older computer. corel 5 had a patch that corrected most of it original problems, if you get it make sure it is 5.3 or better. Sorry I am so late seeing this post, the bb has been down 3 days here.
Bill
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