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Jackson Smart
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Man!!!.....wouldn't ya know it. Just when you get a rush job in the shop....the paint won't dry. Here is what is happening. Layed down some semi-transparent drop shadows on nice finished oak plywood sign. That was 2 days ago. Got in yesterday morning and found that it had not dried. It is at the consistancy of gold size....perfect tack..nice "Squeek" on the back of the finger. second problem: Brushed on the letters this morning,(I thought it would surely dry today.), or I could just take it off and start all over. The wood has several coats of Varnish on it, so it would end up a mess! I still have to outline the letters.

Used 1-Shot Tinting clear and a touch of brown paint. The tinting clear is an old can...so the drying properties are probably in the skin. I think I forgot to add dryer...[CRS...these days ] I believe that is the reason it won't dry.

The question is: ANYBODY know how I can speed up the drying???? I have had the heat lamps on it all day long, not much change.

BUMMER!!!

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Jackson Smart
Jackson's Signs
Port Angeles, WA
...."The Straits of Juan De Fuca in my front yard and Olympic National Park in my backyard...

"Living on Earth is expensive...but it does include a free trip around the Sun"



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John Deaton
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That may be the problem Jackson. Years ago, when I was first starting, I used the 5oz. dixie cups which have a wax coating to mix paint in, and as a dispenser when I was lettering. Did a furniture truck on a friday, finally dried on monday. Found out later the wax retards the drying time along with other problems of adhesion, etc. I've got some tinting clear that is about a year old, and I used it the other day with no problems, and it was skinned over pretty bad. Scratching me head on this one too...

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John Deaton III
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FranCisco Vargas
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Jackson sorry to hear about your mishap, but from what you say, I would say the varnish had something to do with the drying effect. I can't quite recall but I remember a formula a friend once told me about, and that was to get a spray bottle, add some alcohol, laquer thinner, and some dryer, and just shoot a mist of it on the area to be dried. or he said you can try Krylon clear coat finish, and mist that on.
thats one way to attack the situation, but I think Kent Smith might know this answer, he's pretty heavy in this kind of things. Kent you around?
ok amigo, not sure if I was any help but I tried, see ya...Cisco

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Mark Fair Signs
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hey jackson,
i guess it all depends on what kind of "varnish" was used.

there is something chemically going on between the finish and lettering enamels and "glazes"

hind site is 20/20 but maybe you should have clear coated the surface before you applied 1-shot????

heck, i don't know!

i hope things turn out well!

good luck buddy,

mark

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Frank Smith
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Keep a fan on it; air movement helps. Due to a difficulty like yours 2 weeks ago, I began wondering if we can do something more than apply heat, you know something like microwaves....just thinking out loud.

Good luck,

Frank

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jackson, Here's something you might try.
Take the color that was used for the shade
and work it into some Penetrol. Do not put
the Penetrol into the color because it's
easier to make a blend using the Penetrol as a base.Choose an area that you feel secure about
doing a test and brush on a little of the
mix, wait a while and check the progress.
Penentrol, usually helps paint to flow
evenly and dry kind of quick. I hope this
might help. Good Luck
Thas'it,.............CrazyJack

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Sorry to be so late in seeing this post, been busy here. When the dryer is in question, a simple solution is to take a spray bottle with hydrogen peroxide in it and mist the air lightly above the surface. Allow the mist to fall and this should dry the paint or varnish in an hour or so. Air flow at this time certainly is important. Keep this trick for future reference. This only works on alkyd enamels and related varnishes, not urethanes or acrylics although it will work on waterborne acrylics. Caution, don't mist too heavy or the finish will water spot.

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Smith Sign Studio
Greeley, Colorado, USA
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Jackson Smart
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Well....thanks to all of you that responded.
Too late Kent...wish I would have checked the board earlier today....had to get the job done...so...I cleaned it all off and started over. It did clean off nice, tho. I will remember that trick for the future...Thanks again everyone. Lesson learned....if in doubt...add dryer!!!

This is the beauty of having a place like this...where all you have to do is post your problem and....Viola...I LOVE this place!!!!


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Jackson Smart
Jackson's Signs
Port Angeles, WA
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"Living on Earth is expensive...but it does include a free trip around the Sun"



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