And a Hell of a Lot of people died.!!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...!!!!!
Maybe, Just Maybe, It really is "PEOPLE" that KILL PEOPLE, and NOT GUNS........!!!!!
I know, I know.......all the Anti-Gun, Peace Creeps, will still find some weak straw to grab.......But not this time Ollie........!!

Probably come up with some silly crap about how the two can't be compared, or some such nonsence.

Knowing this will be deleted, because it's too offensive, I'm gonna post it anyway, just to see how long it lasts........!!!

[ September 12, 2001: Message edited by: CJ Allan ]

So what now? I say we go strong all the high school grocery baggers and stockboys at the local foodmarket for totin' box cutters....and every feminazi for totin' mace.

Somehow I don't quite see CJ as the Enemy here.

I believe CJ like all of us have a right to their own opinion regardless of what that opinion is.

seeya in McCalla bubba allan.

But I'm with the crowd.
Isn't this whole system between your country and mine about freedom of speech?

Not freedom of action, but to convince the people of changes needed by words and votes.

Electronic E-Mail and formats are the new little wooden soap boxs.

No one gets hurt except some feelings.

That was the plane believed bound for the Capitol or Airforce One.......

It's quite possible, and probable that those men were heros afterall.....I sure would like to think so.

Sure hope they find the black boxes, we may never know what really happened in those planes.

i have met CJ and his family and they are good people.

until you meet face to face with a "head"
please don't be quick to pass judgement by what they type on the internet.

I can talk a lot faster than i can type.

i have often been mis-construed on the old BB.
but anyone who has ever met me will say....
"yep, he is a good fellow"

i got ta be careful when i start using those fancy words like "mis-construed" LOL

my point is opinions are like, well you know the rest.

mark in monkeytown

damn... i had to edit my post because of a typo!!!! ), okay, two or three typos!!!!!!

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[ September 12, 2001: Message edited by: Mark Fair Signs ]

To CJ and the Amen Brothers:
Correct me if need be, but an airplane freshly fueled that is used to impale a building and incinerate people looks like a damn big gun to me. Did you see that fireball bullet?

John and Adrienne have glimpses of what will probably turn out to be a partial scenario of what happened.
There may be great bravery revealed in what occurred on airplane 4.

It is beyond me to understand, Si, how you could know what brave spirit or conduct you would have been capable of while staring close to certain death in the face.
( I apologize if you have experienced this, there may be something we don't know).

Myra...yes, I have faced Rocks, Clubs, Broken Bottles and Knives! I did Crowd Control for almost 20 years!

Just my 2 cents worth!

[ September 12, 2001: Message edited by: Si Allen ]

I hate when this BB is used in a manner that attempts to embaress or take a shot at anyone. Even if that person is me.

CJ is upset with me over a post of his I removed sometime back. I know he is upset and we have exchanged e-mail behind the scenes. We'll get to talk things over this weekend and hopefully come to an understanding.

Everyone has a right to an opinion, but do you all really allow visitors to your house or shop say whatever they want in front of your other quests? Sorry folks. Being a good host does not mean anything goes.

There are days when this BB reminds me of that old song called "Harper Valley PTA."

HAHA, if HE had been on that plane, I doubt any of those terrorist woulda messed with that crochity ol' b*&%$#d once he stood up and bellowed at em to....

"Sit the *&%$ down and shuddup!!!!

but as usual i failed miserably.

damn, can't we all show a little human kindness????

i myself am tired of this bickering bullshi*t.

dammit, live and let live.

now, get to a letterhead's meet this weekend and have fellowship with folks who have the same goal, to be the best that you can be and to share your experience.

They chose their weapon of choice and used it. It could just as easily have been guns as opposed to knives.

I'm with you on this one LE. In another post CJ commented that this topic was not appropriate for the bb, yet he brings it up here. Hmmm...

BTW, what happened to the spell checker feature? Is it gone?

[ September 13, 2001: Message edited by: Donna in BC ]

There is, for the time being, NO Republican vs Democrat, Black vs White, Ohio State vs Michigan,
No Gun vs Pro Gun, sticky vs brush......or whatever other little sub divisions we have managed to create.

Life was simple when we could bicker over issues.
Just a few short days ago, my biggest catastrophe
was the Browns losing on a last second field goal!

Like it or not, our lives are forever changed. Unfortunately, this is not something that's going to go away in a few days, weeks, months or even years.

The terrorists, whoever they are, created what I hope future historians view as the greatest show
of strength and unity ever displayed.

We must put a positive spin on this. Yes grieve.
But get back up, brush yourself off, and courageously face the issues at hand.

Once the intelligence identifies the perpetrators,
they must be, and are going to be struck down. There will be a retaliation of some sort.

You cannot negotiate with people willing to ram themselves into the side of buildings.

Like it or not, we are all on the same team.

Since tuesday the world has become a lot smaller place, here there are news updates on radio and tv every 15 minutes, yesterday NATO declared it would support any action the US would take.
My brother is in the british army in germany, all leave has been cancelled they are on the same alert state as during the gulf war and he is part of a europe wide quick reaction force which means they could be anywhere within 12 hours.

This really isn't about guns. Its about fighting to keep our Rights as guaranteed in our Constitution. The right to bear arms and to free speech are just two of them. Many of us Americans are a bit touchy when someone, anyone, tries to infringe on those rights for whatever reason.

Our Founding Fathers didn't trust "Government". That is why they put it the power into the hands of the people by creating checks and balances.

That said, I'm asking that all of us to be respectful to one another. As most of you know, I could probably debate anyone here under the table. I live for a good argument. But for now, lets respect Steve Shortreed's request and not get into what we know are hot buttons with many people.

I love a good argument too. As you know, I could probably debate anyone here under the table. Wait a minute. I shouldn't sound so full of myself. I take that back.

"I love a good argument too. As you know, I could probably debate anyone here under
the table. Wait a minute. I shouldn't sound so full of myself. I take that back."

On our drive down to Alabama, we had an opportunity to listen to radio talk shows and lots of chatter on the CB. A disaster like this brings out the best and worst in people. Some want to use this as an opportunity to attack others just because because they are Arab or have a religion different from our own. I'm glad nobody has tried to use the Letterville BB to promote any sort of hate. That's where I draw the line.

My dream is to bring you all together as Letterheads. When I see you "pistol whippin'" each other it can be very upsetting. You may nor agree with the opinion of others, but please treat each other with respect.

[ September 13, 2001: Message edited by: Steve Shortreed ]

I sympathize with your plight here. So few actual bits of intelligence posted here, I'm not quite sure why I even bothered looking.

Lose a few family in the tragedy, and suddenly peoples perspectives might change.

Now, something has happened on the BB again, and on this thread, which got to me in a four plus manner.

It concerns the tagging of the crews and passengers on the four flights involved in the terrorism with a term I find offensive and distasteful in the extreme. None of these people are around today to defend their actions, or lack of actions, having been reduced to incinerated ash. The term was an insult to their memories, and to their survivors. The survivors are most likely going to have to content and console themselves with memorial services, since I am sure there is little if anything left to bury.

Considering what has come to light over the last day or two about what happened on the aircraft which crashed in Pennsylvania, I firmly believe an apology to the people who were on those airliners, and their survivors, is most definitely in order.