Ok. After seeing all those goodies at the meet I'm ready to try my hand at'em.
This design is a 12' x 4', & would be done out of a sandblasted HDU, with the word jardimar the inside texturized with a rotozip & gilded. The white text would be just painted.
I'd have my wife paint the little pictoral thingy.
The butterflies are also carved HDU. Posts would be about 10" x 10" treated wood.
I don't mean to be such a pain, but could someone at least guide me through this quote? Its something Ive never done before & I don't wanna screw up! Thanks always guys!
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5 Alive need INPUT! How thick is the HDU.....what backing....what fastening system...need INPUT!
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Thanks for the quick response Pierre. Ok, I was planning on using 1 1/2" HDU, with a plywood backer held up by 2" x 4"'s. Bear with me, I'm going by what I usually see in the magazines! Nothing in real life down here to go by! Fastening system, I guess lag bolts & epoxy or polyurethane glue?
I would consider 1/16" aluminum for a backer & galvanized 2"x 2"'s running along the back instead of wood. Don't know what I'd fasten it down with if I used them, though.
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Nope. A 4x12 only 1.5" thick is too long to use anything other than plywood backing. The only way you could use Dibond is if you use 3"x3" aluminum or steel angle to rib the back. Attatching it is easy. If it is going to be Dibond with reinforceing ribs, sand the Dibond with a heavy grit, crosshatch with PB240 and clamp it lightly. I probably have 40 of the heavy springloaded welding clamps in the shop. I use these for laminating HDU to substrata. Predrill the angle aluminum and run screws right through the DIbond into the back of the HDU, taking care not to go all the way through. That should be plenty strong enough. To mount it to your square posts, take yur Skil saw and slot the posts in the exact position and depth of the angle iron. Slide it in and use small "L" brackets to secure it to the post. Quick, clean and well supported. Another way is to bolt two more angle iron rails to the posts and rest the ones on the back of your sign right on top of them. Having predrilled the holes, use a long Phillips bit to run the screws in every 18" out along the rails away from the posts. I'm going to bed now.
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Hi Felix, nice design. This will be a landmark sign the way you have described it.
Pricing: Before I go through anywhere near the level of design you've proposed I would get some budget guidelines established with the client. The very first meeting is a good time to bring it up. For a highly custom, dimensionsl sign I fly the $100-$200 rule up the flagpole and see how they react. Basically that from experience I know a sign of that magnitude can easily run in the ballpark of $100 per sq ft (for S/F) up to $200 per sq ft (for D/F). They'll either say "No F*cking way!" or "That's about what I expected", or "I couldn't go higher than $x). Once they've verbalized an acceptable budget, I'm afraid it's a matter of writing out step-by-step materials and labor it will take to do it the way you want to, with options down to the way they can afford. That's what works for me. Good luck.
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Nice design Felix! Be sure to put a printout in you portfolio!
I agree with Joe. I would give three prices - $ 100.00, $ 125.00, and $ 150.00 sq ft. Gives you room to work...flat butterfly instead of carved, less detail, etc.
pierre - nice mounting method...I'm gonna use it on an install that I've got coming up.
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Fastening system, I guess lag bolts & epoxy or polyurethane glue?
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